Jail for not believing holocaust

[Prime]

Austria is a police state, are you really surprised.

Austrian law prohibits any type of propaganda that glorifies symbols from the World War II period.

Not the point of the argument.

The argument is should having a contrary opinion be a crime?
Should expressing a view that others disagree with be punishable?

if your view is tantamount to hate speech or incites violence, yes.

[rustypup]

if your view is tantamount to hate speech or incites violence, yes.

a cake is hate speech?

[Prime]

if your view is tantamount to hate speech or incites violence, yes.

a cake is hate speech?

tell me one good reason for producing a Nazi themed cake?

[rustypup]

it's delicious?

[Stuart]

Austrian law prohibits any type of propaganda that glorifies symbols from the World War II period.

Not the point of the argument.

The argument is should having a contrary opinion be a crime?
Should expressing a view that others disagree with be punishable?

Not at all. I'm just saying . . .

[hamin_aus]

if your view is tantamount to hate speech or incites violence, yes.

Since you want to play the "tell me why/how" game...

How is saying the holocaust never happened, or baking a cake hate speech
How is it inciting violence?

Austria is a police state.

It claimed to be a democratic republic the last time I bothered to check.

[Prime]

if your view is tantamount to hate speech or incites violence, yes.

Since you want to play the "tell me why/how" game...

How is saying the holocaust never happened, or baking a cake hate speech
How is it inciting violence?

Austria is a police state.

It claimed to be a democratic republic the last time I bothered to check.

Do you know any Austrians? not sheep shaggers, austrians

I know a few people who've live in austria. It's not a police state in the strictest sense, but it is heavily policed. You can't go away for the weekend without having to report to the police where you are going and for how long. A friend of my mothers taught piano in Austria, she needed a licence for it. At the same time, she said people like fritzel is not an isolated incident there either.

And I was responding to you post:

Austrian law prohibits any type of propaganda that glorifies symbols from the World War II period.

Not the point of the argument.

The argument is should having a contrary opinion be a crime?
Should expressing a view that others disagree with be punishable?

I'm waiting for a non delicious reason why you'd bake a nazi cake?

Edit: the term i was actually wanting was probably nanny state

[lancelot]

jaminjamin jamin, you resurrected this old thread because of a cake? He should have not placed it in his window for all to see, he is not in trouble for baking a nice (hopefully) cake but for being an idiot in an idiot state.

[hamin_aus]

I'm waiting for a non delicious reason why you'd bake a nazi cake?

Haven't you ever heard the phrase
The customer is always Reich

[Anakha56]

if your view is tantamount to hate speech or incites violence, yes.

a cake is hate speech?

tell me one good reason for producing a Nazi themed cake?

You asked I provide

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/04/07/bo ... d-pri.html

Boss of F1 Grand Prix racing in Nazi-themed sex orgy scandal

/Cant tell if the pics are NSFW but there you go...

[Stuart]

I'm waiting for a non delicious reason why you'd bake a nazi cake?

Haven't you ever heard the phrase
The customer is always Reich

[Prime]

I'm waiting for a non delicious reason why you'd bake a nazi cake?

Haven't you ever heard the phrase
The customer is always Reich

[Stuart]

Baker says sorry over swastika cakes

Vienna - An Austrian baker, under investigation for icing cakes with Nazi symbols, has apologised to the head of a Holocaust awareness group for causing offence.

The cake-maker met with the head of the Austria Mauthausen Committee (MKOe), which has called for the bakery to be banned.

"I called him because from media reports I got the impression that he knew what he had done was wrong and that he was sorry for it," MKOe head Willy Mernyi said in a statement on the committee's website.

Austrian law bans the use of Nazi symbols. The baker has said he was only making what a customer wanted.

At the meeting, Mernyi gave the baker a book about the Mauthausen concentration camp and in return was presented with a traditional cake decorated with Jewish and Christian symbols.

The Icing on the Cake

[hamin_aus]

Mernyi gave the baker a book about the Mauthausen concentration camp and in return was presented with a traditional cake decorated with Jewish and Christian symbols.

I'm sorry.... what

If you are allowed to put Jewish and Christian symbols on a cake, you should be allowed to put Swastika's...
Up until WWII the 'swastika' was a commonplace symbol used by many different religions and cultures with no negative connotations.

It is one of the oldest symbols in history, some say even older than the Egyptian Ankh.
Even the word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika meaning to be or do good.

It is a symbol used by in Chinese, English, German (Pre WWII), Greek and Indian cultures throughout human history.
But lets all get in a tizz Austria, because a baker put one on a cake.
There was no mention in the article if the cake was for a neo-nazi. Maybe it was for a Hindu, the symbol is till very prevalent in that religion and they rightly don't give a toss what the Nazi's did with it 50 years ago.

[hamin_aus]

Israeli bill would outlaw comparisons to Nazis

A proposed bill would make it a crime in Israel to criticize people by comparing them to Nazis.
The draft legislation would impose penalties of up to six months in jail and a $25,000 fine for using the word "Nazi" or Holocaust symbols for purposes other than teaching, documentation or research.
The draft legislation passed its first hurdle Monday when Cabinet ministers approved it. It now goes to the full parliament for a vote.
The bill was proposed after ultra-Orthodox demonstrators set off a furor by dressing young boys as Nazi concentration camp inmates during a protest against what they said was incitement against their community. Protesters have also called police "Nazis."
The bill has been criticized by civil rights groups that see it as infringing on freedom of expression.

Stay classy Israel...

[StarBound]

So when will Australia loose their mind aswell? Seems like they are the only sane country left.

[hamin_aus]

How do you figure this

[doo_much]

In the same vein - with all the political remifications...

PARIS - A senior Turkish diplomat warned France's opposition Socialists that if they did not block a bill to make it illegal to deny the 1915 mass killing of Armenians by Ottomon Turks, they could damage relations with Ankara after an election this year.

Lawmakers in the lower-house National Assembly voted overwhelmingly last month in favor of a draft law outlawing genocide denial, prompting Ankara to cancel all economic, political and military meetings with Paris and recall its ambassador for consultations.

The bill will be presented to the Senate on Jan. 23 for a final vote, with the process to be completed before parliament is suspended in February ahead of presidential elections.

The Socialist Party, which holds a majority in the Senate since elections in the upper house late last year, indicated last week that most left-wing senators would support it.

[hamin_aus]

Hahaha, this so soon after the burka controversy

On the one hand I applaud France for going all out to troll Muslims.

On the other hand, there are ways to troll religious ignoramuses that don't trample all over freedom of speech....