Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls
Forum rules
The global forum rules are found here.
NOTE: posts in this section are not counted towards your total.
The global forum rules are found here.
NOTE: posts in this section are not counted towards your total.
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 26022
- Joined: 13 May 2004, 02:00
- Location: Getting there...
- Contact:
Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls
MOOD - Thirsty
A surprising amount of modern pseudoscience is coming out of the environmental sector. Perhaps it should not be so surprising given that environmentalism is political rather than scientific.
Timothy Casey
A surprising amount of modern pseudoscience is coming out of the environmental sector. Perhaps it should not be so surprising given that environmentalism is political rather than scientific.
Timothy Casey
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 446
- Joined: 21 Dec 2010, 09:02
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
I'll give SANRAL a hand...in the form of a fist!
I no longer think of myself as Atheist however I reject religion as a concept where you must do x because someone says so. May contain nuts.
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 2812
- Joined: 01 Jul 2005, 02:00
- Location: somewhere over the rainbow where katie melua is running from me.
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Ah, the back routes are going to be a nightmare now =(
In time the municipalities will start doing so much updgrades in the urban areas with the roads that they will eventually start to look like highways themselves(20+ years I say). It will justcreat another cycle and it's all going to end up messed up.
In time the municipalities will start doing so much updgrades in the urban areas with the roads that they will eventually start to look like highways themselves(20+ years I say). It will justcreat another cycle and it's all going to end up messed up.
"Friends are a lot like potatoes. If you eat them they die." - Stuart
-
- Resident Drama Llama
- Posts: 967
- Joined: 05 Mar 2008, 02:00
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
Last edited by -Prometheus- on 04 Apr 2011, 03:24, edited 1 time in total.
- THE_STIG
- Spoiled Brat
- Posts: 11762
- Joined: 26 Aug 2010, 20:33
- Processor: Core i7 6800k
- Motherboard: Asrock x99 taichi
- Graphics card: Zotac 1080ti amp extreme
- Memory: 16gb(4x4gb) corsair vengeance
- Location: Some say.......
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Ho yes.....and I can just see those evil white gantries getting sabotaged
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 49984
- Joined: 18 Nov 2008, 21:55
- Location: Searching for a way back throught the lookingglass
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Spread a rumour that you get a lot of money for it as scrap
"I hear voices in my head but they are my own this time"
"Except for a battle lost, there is nothing so terrible as a battle won."
"Sanity is for the weak!!"
"Except for a battle lost, there is nothing so terrible as a battle won."
"Sanity is for the weak!!"
-
- Resident Drama Llama
- Posts: 967
- Joined: 05 Mar 2008, 02:00
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
Last edited by -Prometheus- on 04 Apr 2011, 03:25, edited 1 time in total.
- THE_STIG
- Spoiled Brat
- Posts: 11762
- Joined: 26 Aug 2010, 20:33
- Processor: Core i7 6800k
- Motherboard: Asrock x99 taichi
- Graphics card: Zotac 1080ti amp extreme
- Memory: 16gb(4x4gb) corsair vengeance
- Location: Some say.......
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
I think they already know that ......I hope they steal the cables from those things .CapNemo wrote:Spread a rumour that you get a lot of money for it as scrap
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 2663
- Joined: 29 Jul 2004, 02:00
- Location: hidden deep in the depths of the underworld is my home.
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
any links to what this toll system is about. i have heard people are very upset about it and want to petition against it.
- THE_STIG
- Spoiled Brat
- Posts: 11762
- Joined: 26 Aug 2010, 20:33
- Processor: Core i7 6800k
- Motherboard: Asrock x99 taichi
- Graphics card: Zotac 1080ti amp extreme
- Memory: 16gb(4x4gb) corsair vengeance
- Location: Some say.......
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
All people are upsetDeathStrike wrote:any links to what this toll system is about. i have heard people are very upset about it and want to petition against it.
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 2663
- Joined: 29 Jul 2004, 02:00
- Location: hidden deep in the depths of the underworld is my home.
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Yes so i have heard.THE_STIG wrote:All people are upsetDeathStrike wrote:any links to what this toll system is about. i have heard people are very upset about it and want to petition against it.
Would still like to read more about it. any links?
- KatrynKat
- Insane in the Membrane
- Posts: 24490
- Joined: 18 Jul 2010, 17:42
- Location: In my BDSM dungeon - aka Lockdown
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
"This eBook is displayed using 100% recycled electrons."
-
- Resident Drama Llama
- Posts: 967
- Joined: 05 Mar 2008, 02:00
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
Last edited by -Prometheus- on 04 Apr 2011, 03:28, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 2663
- Joined: 29 Jul 2004, 02:00
- Location: hidden deep in the depths of the underworld is my home.
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Thanks Katryn.
does sound horrible. i live in CT. so for now this won't affect me. hope they don't do this here or its going to suck to go anywhere.
does sound horrible. i live in CT. so for now this won't affect me. hope they don't do this here or its going to suck to go anywhere.
- Ron2K
- Forum Technical Administrator
- Posts: 9050
- Joined: 04 Jul 2006, 16:45
- Location: Upper Hutt, New Zealand
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
To my understanding, SANRAL does not control the N1 and N2 between the city centre and the respective interchanges with the R300 - they do want to set up tolls on the stretches of road that they do control though. I understand their point for the Huguenot Tunnel (project ongoing to complete the northern bore, and tunnel maintenance can't come that cheap) and the proposed Somerset West bypass, but fail to see the point of tolling existing infrastructure.
Kia kaha, Kia māia, Kia manawanui.
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 20576
- Joined: 19 Sep 2003, 02:00
- Location: Bloodbank
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Damn If I take the highway every day it will work me out more than my petrol in toll gates. Ouch. Going to cost me R 78.00 per day.
Say 20 working days in a month. That would give me around.... R 1 560.00. My petrol costs me R 1 200.00 a month and I do more than just drive to work and back. This is ridiculous.
Say 20 working days in a month. That would give me around.... R 1 560.00. My petrol costs me R 1 200.00 a month and I do more than just drive to work and back. This is ridiculous.
- Spoiler (show)
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 26022
- Joined: 13 May 2004, 02:00
- Location: Getting there...
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Have you factored in the discounts applicable to using an e-tag and being a regular user?
MOOD - Thirsty
A surprising amount of modern pseudoscience is coming out of the environmental sector. Perhaps it should not be so surprising given that environmentalism is political rather than scientific.
Timothy Casey
A surprising amount of modern pseudoscience is coming out of the environmental sector. Perhaps it should not be so surprising given that environmentalism is political rather than scientific.
Timothy Casey
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 20576
- Joined: 19 Sep 2003, 02:00
- Location: Bloodbank
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Well I am not planning to use the highway in any case. I am not paying 70% tax on fuel just so that I can be ripped off even more by paying tolls.
- Spoiler (show)
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 26022
- Joined: 13 May 2004, 02:00
- Location: Getting there...
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Mind doing the calculation anyway so that we can compare the two?
I'm also busy plotting alternative routes for the times I need to use the GFIP network.
I'm also busy plotting alternative routes for the times I need to use the GFIP network.
MOOD - Thirsty
A surprising amount of modern pseudoscience is coming out of the environmental sector. Perhaps it should not be so surprising given that environmentalism is political rather than scientific.
Timothy Casey
A surprising amount of modern pseudoscience is coming out of the environmental sector. Perhaps it should not be so surprising given that environmentalism is political rather than scientific.
Timothy Casey
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 20576
- Joined: 19 Sep 2003, 02:00
- Location: Bloodbank
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Ok ok.. it is 30.5% of our fuel price is tax... Which is meant to be applied to road maintenance. If our government can't work with the money it is not my responsibility to give them more money which they can stuff into their own pockets to further enrich themselves and oppress the poor.
With a tag it will work me out around R 1 170.00 each month. Which would still double my traveling costs.
With a tag it will work me out around R 1 170.00 each month. Which would still double my traveling costs.
- Spoiler (show)
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 26022
- Joined: 13 May 2004, 02:00
- Location: Getting there...
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Can't disagree with that. At least they're using the money to keep our railways going. Or doesn't the gravy train need tracks?
But seriously. It'd be interesting to see what 'benefit' the discount will have for a regular user.
*edit.
Thanks, see you did it.
MOOD - Thirsty
A surprising amount of modern pseudoscience is coming out of the environmental sector. Perhaps it should not be so surprising given that environmentalism is political rather than scientific.
Timothy Casey
A surprising amount of modern pseudoscience is coming out of the environmental sector. Perhaps it should not be so surprising given that environmentalism is political rather than scientific.
Timothy Casey
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 20576
- Joined: 19 Sep 2003, 02:00
- Location: Bloodbank
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
Problem is they consider the time I am driving at to be peak time... Although I can't see how that can be. The roads at 05h00 in the morning is not busy at all. If I were to leave my house at 08h00 I would get a 5% discount... woopy doo da dae...
- Spoiler (show)
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 20732
- Joined: 13 Sep 2004, 02:00
- Location: Cruising the streets of Pretoria
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
False, regular users are upset. I'm not upset. If it can ease the highway traffic and get all the pieces of ***** cars off the highway I'm one happy camper.THE_STIG wrote:All people are upset
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 20576
- Joined: 19 Sep 2003, 02:00
- Location: Bloodbank
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
What is the use of traveling nicely on the highway only to hit a wall of congestion once you have to get off?
- Spoiler (show)
-
- Resident Drama Llama
- Posts: 967
- Joined: 05 Mar 2008, 02:00
- Contact:
Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
........................................................................................................................................................................................................
Last edited by -Prometheus- on 04 Apr 2011, 03:33, edited 1 time in total.