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Good game I must say. Dunga's critics are having to retract those words of doubt very quickly...
Tonight should be good as well, Spain vs Portugal!
Tonight should be good as well, Spain vs Portugal!
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ryanrich wrote:Good game I must say. Dunga's critics are having to retract those words of doubt very quickly...
Tonight should be good as well, Spain vs Portugal!
Yeah..I rate it should be a Epic one, who you supporting tonight Ryan?
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I dunno really... I like a lot of the Spanish players like Villa, Pique, Torres, Xavi, Alonso, so I'd have to go with them. The Portuguese should put up a good fight though...
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Yeah, they were just completely outplayed. Bring on the quarters!
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The Sight of Cristiano Ronaldo crying.... was a LOLZ
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+1 I hate that guy.ADT wrote:The Sight of Cristiano Ronaldo crying.... was a LOLZ
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They lost to Spain. Not so much an upset imo.Anthro wrote:Porto LOSS wow an upset
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+1 Current Fifa rankings:Stuart wrote:They lost to Spain. Not so much an upset imo.Anthro wrote:Porto LOSS wow an upset
#1: Brazil
#2: Spain
#3: Portugal
#4: Netherlands
So no upset, just lost to a better team. I'm hoping for a Dutch upset on Friday at 4pm, going to be a cracker!
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From what I saw last night, Spain can play a VERY good game. Their passing in particular really impressed me, was almost as if they had Velcro on their boots, the ball just stuck to them.
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whats new about that - they have been doing that for the last two years - in fact they won the Euro's doing just thatGreyWolf wrote:From what I saw last night, Spain can play a VERY good game. Their passing in particular really impressed me, was almost as if they had Velcro on their boots, the ball just stuck to them.
in fact it would have only been an upset if portugal beat spain - Brazil and Spain were favorites going into the beginning of the world cup
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Last night was the first time I watched Spain play since the LAST world cup, so please forgive my ignorance.naughty wrote:whats new about that - they have been doing that for the last two years - in fact they won the Euro's doing just thatGreyWolf wrote:From what I saw last night, Spain can play a VERY good game. Their passing in particular really impressed me, was almost as if they had Velcro on their boots, the ball just stuck to them.
in fact it would have only been an upset if portugal beat spain - Brazil and Spain were favorites going into the beginning of the world cup
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They certainly know how to hold onto the ball, but I suspect that they'll have to change their game plan when they come up against a more attacking team like Brazil or Argentina. They can't just pass the ball around and hope for a goal eventually. They'll need to attack, or they will find themselves having to come from behind pretty quickly.
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MSN Sports wrote:Scientists who have analysed the controversial Jabulani ball have concluded that the World Cup ball may simply be too round to fly straight.
AFP reports that experts believe that when it comes to the Jabulani ball, perfect may not be good enough.
Spain's Iker Casillas has dissed it as "rotten," while Italy's top goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon tagged it as "unpredictable."
Julio Cesar of Brazil suggested he could do better buying a ball in a supermarket
. "Part of the problem may be that "the stitches of the Jabulani are internal, so the ball resembles a perfect sphere," said Eric Berton, deputy director of the Institute of the Science of Movement in Marseille, France.
In other sports - tennis, golf or baseball - the balls have irregularities precisely to insure a more stable and controlled trajectory. The ridges or exposed seams are what make possible spin in tennis or a curveball pitch in baseball.
Despite the Jabulani's so-called 'grip'n'grove' texturing, however, the ball apparently doesn't behave in the same way.
"Because of the shape, the time of contact with the foot is reduced," said Berton.
"As a consequence, it practically doesn't spin. The ball travels a little less far, and will have a floating and unpredictable trajectory, whether for a striker or a goalkeeper," added Berton.
Wind-tunnel tests conducted by Kazuya Seo of Yamagata and Takeshi Asai University in Tsukuba also found that the machine-made Jabulani was close to a perfect sphere, and has a tendency to slow suddenly in mid-flight - a disconcerting characteristic for footballers.
Australian scientist Derek Leinweber, based at Adelaide University, concluded after a series of computer tests that the ball goes faster and is more unpredictable than its predecessors.
"That means the goalkeeper can no longer really anticipate its trajectory," he said.
The Jabulani - "allows for maximum control, stable flight and perfect grip under all conditions," FIFA said in unveiling the controversial ball.
The ball is constructed of eight thermally-bonded polyurethane panels, and is very nearly waterproof.
Adidas has defended its product.
"There are strict FIFA guidelines on the ball (weight, size, bounce depending on what the temperature is).
"Not only does our ball fulfill all these conditions but in fact they go beyond them," commented the German company.
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it isnt ignorance under those circumstances - but in the qualifiers, Spain have pretty much been playing the Barcelona way and Portugal despite their world ranking have not being too great under Carlos Quieroz's rule - he may even be regretting leaving the majorly successful stint he had going as second-in-command at Man united to take over the helm at Portugal againGreyWolf wrote:Last night was the first time I watched Spain play since the LAST world cup, so please forgive my ignorance.naughty wrote:whats new about that - they have been doing that for the last two years - in fact they won the Euro's doing just thatGreyWolf wrote:From what I saw last night, Spain can play a VERY good game. Their passing in particular really impressed me, was almost as if they had Velcro on their boots, the ball just stuck to them.
in fact it would have only been an upset if portugal beat spain - Brazil and Spain were favorites going into the beginning of the world cup
but the fact that Spain are playing such brilliant football at the moment does not mean that they are unbeatable - its now all at a stage where one lapse of concentration can lose you the tournament - and their loss to USA in the confederations cup was i think the one loss in the last 40 games they played or something to that effect - considering you have only around 10 to 12 international matches per year - thats a lot of games won right there and thats why they were second favorites to Brazil coming into the world cup ..... also my memories of them are not only from the recent qualifiers - (i watched most of those that supersport showed) but also their dominant demolition of all before them in the euro's - they seem to be an almost unbeatable team and it was a huge shock to everyone when they lost to switzerland in their opening game of the world cup group stages
Portugal under Quiroz has had its ups and downs recently - but more downs in fact than up because Christiano Ronaldo definitely was not producing for country as well as he did for club - but thats more because at club level the club is being set up to play to his strengths and centering around feeding him the ball whereas i notice that with Portugal all the other so-called "almost" stars basically ignore him and prefer to try to make their own name for themselves - at the expense most of the time of having far fewer goals scored hence losing and drawing games that they could have easily won had they changed their attitude to their best player
in this Spain vs Portugal game too it irritated me no end when the commentator kept banging on about how anonymous Christiano Ronaldo was - well you would be anonymous too if your team mates did not pass to you when they had the opportunity to do so ..... so every run you make and each time you created space for yourself or had space where you had one man only to beat was wasted - but they passed the ball to you when you had to beat an entire back line of 4 men then got mad that you couldnt do that
its the exact same reason why England lost - the formation wasnt set up for Wayne Rooneys strengths and then they banged on about what a great player he is and how he was going to demolish everyone but when you have guys like gerrard and lampard who also want to be superstars themselves and would rather make that "hollywood" style run into the box and not pass you the ball or take a pot shot from 50 yards out instead, then what are you going to do - everyone goes on about how these stars are not performing but the honest fact is they would be marked out of the game hence i think it was a game-plan of the coaches to use them as red herrings and leave them being double marked while that created space for others to play - and in most instances this plan backfired because the supporting players simply were not good enough to do the job these guys were not allowed to do in the first place
BTW the centre of midfield for spain is the Xavi/Iniesta combo which is the strongest midfield pairing in world football right now - they are the reason why Barca has been so successful becasue they control the midfield with those short triangular passing movements combined with Messi - but despite Messi not being there for them - Spain uses this combination to the fullest anyway with the various other midfielders they have - its the main reason why Cesc Fabregas despite also being considered a brilliant attacking central midfielder cant even get a game right now - so imagine what happens if he leaves arsenal to go to Barca he will only get a game when one of those guys is injured - whereas at arsenal he is team captain and will always be the first name on the team sheet - so it makes me think his proposed move is a waste of time cause he will become another expensive benchwarmer and its the main reason why Barcelona claim they dont want to pay over the odds for him
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I could not agree more, I cannot understand why he is so keen to go to Barcelona, maybe he just misses the bullfights and his Spanish friends?BTW the centre of midfield for spain is the Xavi/Iniesta combo which is the strongest midfield pairing in world football right now - they are the reason why Barca has been so successful becasue they control the midfield with those short triangular passing movements combined with Messi - but despite Messi not being there for them - Spain uses this combination to the fullest anyway with the various other midfielders they have - its the main reason why Cesc Fabregas despite also being considered a brilliant attacking central midfielder cant even get a game right now - so imagine what happens if he leaves arsenal to go to Barca he will only get a game when one of those guys is injured - whereas at arsenal he is team captain and will always be the first name on the team sheet - so it makes me think his proposed move is a waste of time cause he will become another expensive benchwarmer and its the main reason why Barcelona claim they dont want to pay over the odds for him
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Thanks for the insight naughty, and I would have to agree.
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Dutchmen FTW!!
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So what were the Dutch doing in the box at the end there?
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lol
Paris Hilton has been arrested for smoking dope in PE.....Now I want to see what happens to her here will she get a fine or jail time here in South Africa or be extradited......
How freaking dumb do you have to be to smoke weed at a world cup match....when police is on high alert.Seriously I hope she gets time in South African jail and with the special world cup court Judgment will be swift if it even gets there....
Paris Hilton has been arrested for smoking dope in PE.....Now I want to see what happens to her here will she get a fine or jail time here in South Africa or be extradited......
How freaking dumb do you have to be to smoke weed at a world cup match....when police is on high alert.Seriously I hope she gets time in South African jail and with the special world cup court Judgment will be swift if it even gets there....
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Oh my word, what a fantastic game. Those teams were so well matched.
The Ghanain goal was incredible, and Forlan's free kick was a masterpiece.
Suarez - the hero of Uruguay and the bane of humanity, seriously did Ghana in there. It was their game, they actually won it fair and square. A red card was awarded, but the goal should have been awarded too, bastid.
Still, mega respect for Ghana, they played a great game.
The Ghanain goal was incredible, and Forlan's free kick was a masterpiece.
Suarez - the hero of Uruguay and the bane of humanity, seriously did Ghana in there. It was their game, they actually won it fair and square. A red card was awarded, but the goal should have been awarded too, bastid.
Still, mega respect for Ghana, they played a great game.
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Damn hand ball.
In rugby, they would have been awarded some points. !
Well played Ghana
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Well played Ghana
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