Piracy article in June issue

Questions, comments, suggestions, flames about the magazine? Here's the place.
Bladerunner
Registered User
Posts: 14338
Joined: 04 Sep 2004, 02:00
Processor: i386DX Sooper
Motherboard: A blue one
Graphics card: A red one
Memory: Hard drive
Location: On a Möbius strip
Contact:

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by Bladerunner »

jamin_za wrote:Yes please, I long to see some sort of well thought out and rational argument for theft
1. DRM, i.e. punishing those who buy legal copies
2. Inflated prices (R600 for one dvd in a cheap case; COD MW3 could have sold for half the price and still made a massive profit)
3. No added content, like in the old days: books, maps, posters, i.e. no incentive. (Hell, Flight Simulator had a book with the runway outlines of hundreds of major airports, WC2 had a book with the WarCraft storyline, etc)
4. Forced updates, otherwise you aren't allowed to play the game you bought (It is a very real issue where you have slow internet speeds and capped data, i.e. a 2GB BF3 patch on a 1mbps line, most likely capped, or even 3G?)
If I weren't insane: I couldn't be so brilliant! - The Joker
User avatar
hamin_aus
Forum Moderator
Posts: 18363
Joined: 28 Aug 2003, 02:00
Processor: Intel i7 3770K
Motherboard: GA-Z77X-UP4 TH
Graphics card: Galax GTX1080
Memory: 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws
Location: Where beer does flow and men chunder
Contact:

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by hamin_aus »

Bladerunner wrote:
jamin_za wrote:Yes please, I long to see some sort of well thought out and rational argument for theft
1. DRM, i.e. punishing those who buy legal copies
2. Inflated prices (R600 for one dvd in a cheap case; COD MW3 could have sold for half the price and still made a massive profit)
3. No added content, like in the old days: books, maps, posters, i.e. no incentive. (Hell, Flight Simulator had a book with the runway outlines of hundreds of major airports, WC2 had a book with the WarCraft storyline, etc)
4. Forced updates, otherwise you aren't allowed to play the game you bought (It is a very real issue where you have slow internet speeds and capped data, i.e. a 2GB BF3 patch on a 1mbps line, most likely capped, or even 3G?)
All these are fantastic reason to NOT BUY the product.
I'm still waiting for a convincing argument why I should steal it.
Image
Bladerunner
Registered User
Posts: 14338
Joined: 04 Sep 2004, 02:00
Processor: i386DX Sooper
Motherboard: A blue one
Graphics card: A red one
Memory: Hard drive
Location: On a Möbius strip
Contact:

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by Bladerunner »

jamin_za wrote:
Bladerunner wrote: 1. DRM, i.e. punishing those who buy legal copies
2. Inflated prices (R600 for one dvd in a cheap case; COD MW3 could have sold for half the price and still made a massive profit)
3. No added content, like in the old days: books, maps, posters, i.e. no incentive. (Hell, Flight Simulator had a book with the runway outlines of hundreds of major airports, WC2 had a book with the WarCraft storyline, etc)
4. Forced updates, otherwise you aren't allowed to play the game you bought (It is a very real issue where you have slow internet speeds and capped data, i.e. a 2GB BF3 patch on a 1mbps line, most likely capped, or even 3G?)
All these are fantastic reason to NOT BUY the product.
I'm still waiting for a convincing argument why I should steal it.
Stealing is such an inappropriate word. Let's call it "copying".

For your high troll-ness, I will present my argument in the following format:
1. Want Crysis 2
2. R600?! What a rip-off! What do?
3. Copy game from friend
4. Play game, without DRM, without forced updates, without any hassles whatsoever
5. Realise the game isn't worth the R50 it'll be reduced to in the "bargain" bin in 6 months
6. ????
7. PROFIT
8. Go live your life in a meaningful way with the R600 you just saved; buy a steak or something
If I weren't insane: I couldn't be so brilliant! - The Joker
WiK1d
Registered User
Posts: 20732
Joined: 13 Sep 2004, 02:00
Location: Cruising the streets of Pretoria
Contact:

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by WiK1d »

How the internet killed porn

June 6, 2012

It's 15 years since Louis Theroux turned the TV cameras on to the US porn industry. Now he is revisiting it to see if anything has changed - and he finds a business in crisis.

</snip>

And there is also the wider question: do those who use porn not, perhaps, owe it a little something? Should those who download it not be ready to pass on a little cash incentive to the business? And if not, why not? Does the stigma attached to porn make it OK to steal it? These questions underpin a much bigger dilemma being faced by all media: how do you sustain an industry that provides a certain standard of product - be it journalism, music, or mainstream movies, or X-rated movies - when more and more consumers are in the habit of downloading content for free? In the world of porn, the answer is: you can't.
Source
Bladerunner
Registered User
Posts: 14338
Joined: 04 Sep 2004, 02:00
Processor: i386DX Sooper
Motherboard: A blue one
Graphics card: A red one
Memory: Hard drive
Location: On a Möbius strip
Contact:

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by Bladerunner »

Why would you rather download free porn from the internet?
Anonimity, accessibility, and did we mention also free? It's the obvious and logical choice.
If I weren't insane: I couldn't be so brilliant! - The Joker
Sojourn
Registered User
Posts: 5649
Joined: 02 Sep 2004, 02:00
Location: Still looking...

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by Sojourn »

LOL at Blade and his friken "copying". :P
User avatar
THE_STIG
Spoiled Brat
Posts: 11762
Joined: 26 Aug 2010, 20:33
Processor: Core i7 6800k
Motherboard: Asrock x99 taichi
Graphics card: Zotac 1080ti amp extreme
Memory: 16gb(4x4gb) corsair vengeance
Location: Some say.......

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by THE_STIG »

Bladerunner wrote:1. DRM, i.e. punishing those who buy legal copies
4. Forced updates, otherwise you aren't allowed to play the game you bought (It is a very real issue where you have slow internet speeds and capped data, i.e. a 2GB BF3 patch on a 1mbps line, most likely capped, or even 3G?)
True. I wish they would stop their bs or at least give us the downloads in a downloadable .exe form. So that pc mags can put it on cover disks and so that we can get it from friends with fast internet.

Bladerunner wrote:For your high troll-ness, I will present my argument in the following format:
1. Want Crysis 2
2. R600?! What a rip-off! What do?
3. Copy game from friend
4. Play game, without DRM, without forced updates, without any hassles whatsoever
5. Realise the game isn't worth the R50 it'll be reduced to in the "bargain" bin in 6 months
6. ????
7. PROFIT
8. Go live your life in a meaningful way with the R600 you just saved; buy a steak or something
Yep, right you are. Its sort of got to the point where it seems like piracy is less of hassle than buying the original.......sad that :(
StarBound
Registered Pervert
Posts: 6879
Joined: 30 Jul 2004, 02:00
Processor: Intel i7 4790k
Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 7
Graphics card: MSI GTX780Ti Gaming
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 1866mhz 16GB
Location: The Greater Unknown
Contact:

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by StarBound »

I don't even have this issue of the mag anymore, it was 2 years back!

Fortunately for me money isn't the issue anymore. PC is an open ended system. Sony and microsoft wouldn't allow EA to install origin onto either of their system. Nor would they allow a securom, a gameshield or anything else onto their systems. But nope, we choose to play on PC so with us already handing out the most for our hardware and going thru the hassle of getting a game to work with certain drivers we get annoyed just a little bit more with extra stuff being put on our systems.

BTW a pirated copy will only work with others on the same version. In any case most of the game is console ported junk. The stuff that are worth playing is the stuff worth buying. Now if only you could figure that out before getting home and raging after 5 minutes of gameplay it would help.
My Steam Screenshots

I lived the dream ...then my PC died.
User avatar
hamin_aus
Forum Moderator
Posts: 18363
Joined: 28 Aug 2003, 02:00
Processor: Intel i7 3770K
Motherboard: GA-Z77X-UP4 TH
Graphics card: Galax GTX1080
Memory: 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws
Location: Where beer does flow and men chunder
Contact:

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by hamin_aus »

Isn't that what demo's are for?
Image
User avatar
THE_STIG
Spoiled Brat
Posts: 11762
Joined: 26 Aug 2010, 20:33
Processor: Core i7 6800k
Motherboard: Asrock x99 taichi
Graphics card: Zotac 1080ti amp extreme
Memory: 16gb(4x4gb) corsair vengeance
Location: Some say.......

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by THE_STIG »

StarBound wrote:BTW a pirated copy will only work with others on the same version. In any case most of the game is console ported junk. The stuff that are worth playing is the stuff worth buying. Now if only you could figure that out before getting home and raging after 5 minutes of gameplay it would help.
My problem is not with the games themselves but the DRM. A case in point is homefronts. Some time back a friend of mine bought it and so did my brother, so they get home start installing and see that steam is needed so they get that and activate the game. Now "I can play now" they say but no an update is required first and that update happens to be massive. So now they wonder "cant I skip the update and play" no, no they cant even though all they want to do is play off-line singlelayer :?

At thins point I though to myself, those pirates have installed the game done whatever it is they do and are playing it update free :x

So there is my problem, but that said when it comes to online multiplyer then things are bit different
StarBound
Registered Pervert
Posts: 6879
Joined: 30 Jul 2004, 02:00
Processor: Intel i7 4790k
Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 7
Graphics card: MSI GTX780Ti Gaming
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 1866mhz 16GB
Location: The Greater Unknown
Contact:

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by StarBound »

jamin_za wrote:Isn't that what demo's are for?
If you still get demos. I think bulletstorms PC demo was released 3 months after the game and the xbox/ps3 one released 2 weeks before the game.

Closest thing to a demo these days are trial versions. Best thing of a trial is if you like it its a simple unlock. Worst thing of a trial is if you hate it you wasted time and data to test it.
My Steam Screenshots

I lived the dream ...then my PC died.
User avatar
Stuart
Lead Forum Administrator
Posts: 38503
Joined: 19 May 2005, 02:00
Location: Home

Re: Piracy article in June issue

Post by Stuart »

StarBound wrote:Worst thing of a trial is if you hate it you wasted time and data to test it.
As opposed to the time and data you didn't waste downloading and playing the full/pirated version?
Image
Post Reply