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Video frame rate and converters

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So I discovered MSI Afterburner had vid capturing last night. On updating it I got vid capturing with sound. However I dont know what a good frame rate for a vid is. There is the PAL 25fps, the NTSC 29fps/30FPS and ofcoarse bluray that loves 24fps.

So what framerate should be a good frame rate to record vids at? And then I think the vid format is Mjpg or something. What would a decent compression format be to compress to 1080p or 720p? And any good free converters?
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24fps is all you need.

Unless you "need" it at 120fps.....
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Recording video at 120fps might just destroy my ssd or portablie hdds :P
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Depends

What kinds of videos are you recording, what quality, who is the target audience, what format (youtube, dvd, bluray, streaming)

mp4 video, 29.97fps seems to work for most of my projects...
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It's more for my own exploits that I might want to upload to youtube at some point. Its about 350mb for 60 seconds of 1920x1080 mjpg footage, so 3 min per gig. I can easily get 3000min from a 1TB portable USB3 then, 500 hours.

But I can't upload that big. So any advice on them? And when uploading to youtube what files do they take?
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I'd rip at 1080P and then encode down to 720p for uploads to youtube
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Well it can record with downscaling but I still need to convert. It doesn't convert to mp4 off the bat. Any free encoding software to do that?
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Stick to 24fps, it's smooth enough and the smaller no. of frames allow you either save space or encode at a higher bitrate. Check out Avidemux, it's a good piece of free software.
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Downloaded Avidemux and got the feeling of WTF right off the bat. Hman can you perhapes tell me what to do for a quick direct convert from mjpg to avi/h264?
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Drag video to window > on the left select the video codec you want to use > click configure to adjust the encoding options, (you can specify a file size target in some of them) > click save, select a folder, type a name with an extension (.mpg will do) and click okay.
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It's not the easiest piece of software, but you can do lot's of things like resizing, cropping, color adjustments etc.

I use it if I record movies / music to cut out ads and do other stuff to them.
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Will give it another swing tonight. Thanks
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Another freeware util you can use is SUPER, It can do almost any format and can change fps, size, bitrate, etc

http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
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Nice. The more there is the better the odds I find one that suites me. Doesn't have to be anything too special. Just something that can convert without much of a fuss at this point.
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Any Video Converter also does a fair if simple job. For casual encoding targets it's quick and easy. Cyberlink Espresso is another easy to use solution if a little less flexible than AVC.
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Hman can you give me some advice on what I should set my output convert to for MP4? Trying to get my file size down without loosing too much image quality but the problem I am currently having is it is being converted too dark.
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Too dark? Is this specifically on your machine or on other's as well, by default avidemux leaves gamma settings alone. If videos are looking dark after encoding specify add the contrast filter under "colors" and adjust brightness and contrast.
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Basicly it is not the same colour as my games I am recording. Which makes me wonder if it isnt to bring down bitrate or something. Or if by default my games settings are 10% higher.
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That means that what's displaying on screen is not the same as the output. How is your screen configured?
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Not entirely sure.

I'm using MSI Afterburner to capture video to MJPEG at 1080p 30 frames with 100% quality. I've just encoded using MPEG 4 AVC and it looks like I am getting much better results. However I still feel my video is a bit slow as if 1920x1080 vid capturing is lagging behind.
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StarBound wrote:Or if by default my games settings are 10% higher.
What settings?

Also have you tried different recording software for instance Fraps?
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Afterburner is free. Fraps is paid so not even going there. I wasn't very impressed with fraps free version or preview version either.

Ok increased my colour across the board with encoding at 1.14 gamma settings.
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Well adjusting settings in game will have an impact on the color of recordings, setting to defaults should match what you see with what you record.

Cam Studio?

You have to remember though, recording at 1080p will have a impact on performance 6MB per second uncompressed. Thus you are likely to see some "lag" sometimes.
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Still messing around with some settings but seems the problem lies in using mjpeg first and then the actual conversion. Needless to say I don't get my colours the same while playing and while watching and after encoding.
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