Apple Bundles Safari into iTunes... naughty naughty!

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Apple Bundles Safari into iTunes... naughty naughty!

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www.theinquirer.net wrote:Apple's backdoor shenanigans pay off

THE CUPERTINO CABAL'S decision to sneakily piggyback its Safari browser on the last release of Itunes looks to have paid off despite howls of derision from users outraged at being given free software.

The Itunes installer, which included a pre-selected option to update Apple's own-brand browser (even if users had never had it installed in the first place!) looks like it might be responsible for a threefold increase in market penetration in just one month, according to the number-crunching folk over at Market Share.

The update was pushed out to millions of users and it would seem that a fair few of them, once they had recovered from the indignity of the uninvited intrusion, have realised that Safari is actually a pretty darned good wibble wanderer.
The only reason I even read this articles was because of the phrase Backdoor Shenanigans - what a disappointment!
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ROFL @
The only reason I even read this articles was because of the phrase Backdoor Shenanigans - what a disappointment!
HmmZ, I dont like Apple products much...I dont have much of a reason for it though. The few iv used or seen.etc dont seem too be that great

Personal preferance I guess? :P

Iv noticed that some people would just use something for the sake of having it, most likely the same happend with quite a lot of the people who started using it due to it being included in the installer? :?
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Is there really even a use for Mac's in this day and age tho :?:

PC's have surpassed Mac's for most of the uses they were renowned for 10 years or so ago - graphics and sound editing/design primarily.

Still, it's nice to see they are reading from the book of Microsoft and bundling their crappy software into products so that clueless users will be forced to use the stuff.

From what I have heard about Safari, it's not that great a browser. Kind of like IE, but with less raw sewage pouring out of it.
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i noticed this on one of the co-worker's machines...

i'm surprised they continue to play this game considering the issues they've picked up in the past around the security flaws they introduce by silently installing their particular flavour of spamware/malware/adware...

i love people who use iTunes... without them, the world would be a great deal duller...
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I tried Safari. Hated it. It keeps popping up on the Apple auto update thing, and I keep choosing not to install it. I wish it would go away already!
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I also tried Safari, and hated it as well.
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I haven't tried Safari, and I don't intend to! Opera FTW! :D Even more so now that Opera was the first browser to pass the Acid3 test! ;) (Sauce 1, Sauce 2 and more info)
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Xiphan wrote:Opera FTW! :D
QFT!!!!! :D

What is the Acid3 test? :?
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Well what a coincidence as I went into my Itunes now to update my Ipod Touch and noticed if I payed them an extra £12.99 I would get all these new coold features on my Ipod such as e-mail, GPS, Weather etc.. which all options requires internet access as I don't have that activated on my ipod, so pretty much it wouldn't do anything for me.
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PC's have surpassed Mac's for most of the uses they were renowned for 10 years or so ago - graphics and sound editing/design primarily.
not really - if you have one of those R40k dual quadcore factory watercooled monsters with ECC ram - then the pc is still left behind and the mac is still better at those graphics and sound editing things

also beauty of mac is that it isnt susceptible to virus'es - dont want to start a PC vs mac debate - but yep the mac still outdoes the PC in the functions that it primarlly used to

doesnt mean im going to rush out and go and buy one though cos its a tad bit pricey as opposed to a comparably specced pc to do the same job - software still isnt on par though - some of the mac stuff is still better

also nowadays the mac is doing a far more admirable job of leisure stuff like dvd viewing etc where it does provide a quiter and relatively trouble free experience vs a PC albeit at a price (which most ofd us are not willing to pay - im becoming a real cheapskate nowadays - having spent over R200k on pc parts in the last 6 or 7 years - nowadays im only going to bargain hunt :wink: )
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PsyCLown wrote:What is the Acid3 test? :?
http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid3
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At first I kinda liked Safari, for some strange reason, haha. I'm back on Opera now, the best by far... :)
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not really - if you have one of those R40k dual quadcore factory watercooled monsters with ECC ram - then the pc is still left behind and the mac is still better at those graphics and sound editing things
agreed fully, each has their place, i do tons of support for video editing companies, mac is still the prefered choice, not because its a mind set, but because it is faster...

As for the bundling, cant say its the right thing to do, but why not? safari is not terrible, its just not the best...
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naughty wrote:also beauty of mac is that it isnt susceptible to virus'es
They just get hacked in 2 minutes. :wink:
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Although I'm not a big fan of Macs I can't deny that its other beauty is that some of the worlds leading DJs use them in their live acts to mix tracks, as well as remix tracks live!

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“Both laptops are driving Ableton Live,” he explains. “One laptop is full of audio material, the other is completely stuffed up with software synthesizers and MIDI sequencers. Both laptops are linked up through a custom interface, and I have an Allen & Heath Xone:3D mixer, which has a complete template that is also custom-made. I have an Evolution UC33 USB control surface, an Akai MPC2500 and an M-Audio MIDI keyboard to play all the things I want to play.

“The great thing about the 3D mixer is that it combines the possibilities of the fantastic Allen & Heath Xone:92 DJ Mixer with being a complete MIDI controller. Everything has an impact on how I use Ableton — certain buttons, certain faders, certain knobs — they all have a function that basically triggers something in the program.”

Using Ableton Live via the two laptops and various synths allows van Dyk to not only remix his classic tracks (“We Are Alive,” “Tell Me Why,” “For an Angel”) in real time, but to improvise and create new songs on the fly. He can remix old club favorites and mix and match new tunes from In Between — the possibilities are endless.
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As you can see in the above images two of my favourite DJs are both using Macs!
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Xiphan wrote:some of the worlds leading DJs
That's highly debatable!
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jamin_za wrote:
Xiphan wrote:some of the worlds leading DJs
That's highly debatable!
To what are you referring is debatable? :? Who I view as leading DJs or DJs that use laptops to expand upon mere DJ mixes that involve nothing more than crossfading tracks? Or am I being bated with late night troll bate? :P
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:lol:
Have you ever tried crossfading two tracks without any software? Just your mark 1 eardrums... How about mixing two different tracks live on an analogue mixer :?:

Thats frikken DJ'ing! Two turntables and a microphone.
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jamin_za wrote::lol:
Have you ever tried crossfading two tracks without any software? Just your mark 1 eardrums... How about mixing two different tracks live on an analogue mixer :?:

Thats frikken DJ'ing! Two turntables and a microphone.
Been there, done that. :P
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I could not care less.
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Ron2K wrote:Been there, done that. :P
Ya, but when your techno music is going at 5000 beats a minute, nobody knows when you are out of sync.
People tripping on extacy are easy to DJ for :P
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jamin_za wrote::lol:
Have you ever tried crossfading two tracks without any software? Just your mark 1 eardrums... How about mixing two different tracks live on an analogue mixer :?:

Thats frikken DJ'ing! Two turntables and a microphone.
I'm afraid I've only ever tried DJing with software, but even then it still requires a considerable amount of talent to find two tracks that go well together, not to mention you have to use your mark 1 eardrums to hear if the tracks are in sync. As for DJing with an analogue mixer I think it would be easier, as you have hands on access to the playing tracks as well as the crossfader. Using software I've had to rely on a mouse or the keyboard to control the crossfader which believe me is not always easy.

So before you think a PC makes DJing easier, trust me it doesn't. Hence the reason why there's only a handful of DJs using it. As for what they use it, if you read what PvD does, you'll know that he DJs with Serato Scratch and Ableton Live. Which still requires turntables and uses timecoded vinyls to communicate the scratching/ mixing technique to the Serato software. However he also uses a laptop to create new music on the spot, now that is a TRUE live act! Well at least in the trance sense.
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Ron2K wrote:Been there, done that. :P
Ya, but when your techno music is going at 5000 beats a minute, nobody knows when you are out of sync.
People tripping on extacy are easy to DJ for :P
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