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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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Sojourn wrote:on front page I have posted a link with an outlook import into cal
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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Monty wrote:
Sojourn wrote:on front page I have posted a link with an outlook import into cal
Yep. But it doesn't work for Google calendar
But works for outlook. :mrgreen:

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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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So any predictions on the local games? I have no idea what to expect from the Cheetah's and Sharks... very scared about the Lions... they owe SA a good season...
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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My team played poor, even considering the rainy conditions.
WTH is up with all that scrum issues?
Why is every good ball kicked away?
Don't tell me that is their wet weather game plan.

I also expected more from the Sharks.
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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Sojourn wrote:My team played poor, even considering the rainy conditions.
WTH is up with all that scrum issues?
Why is every good ball kicked away?
Don't tell me that is their wet weather game plan.

I also expected more from the Sharks.
Early engage against both teams... became tedious... Bulls sound lucky so far against the Lions... come on Bulls... !!
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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Lions / Bulls game

Bulls were capitalising on penalties, something the Lions didn't do.
If you kick for touch 7 times, in stead of taking the points and end the game loosing with 4, you cannot blame the kicker (even though he missed some shockers).

That said, I would have been proud of the Cheetahs had they lost in the way the Lions did. The 2nd half all the Bulls could do was defend for their lives.
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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And they almost didn't. :?
All the same, it's a win :)
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Hurricanes second five eighth Ma’a Nonu has been suspended for one week after appearing at a SANZAR judicial hearing in Wellington.
Nonu received a yellow card for a professional foul 29 minutes into the first half, and was sanctioned with a second yellow card for a dangerous tackle on Highlanders halfback Jimmy Cowan, ten minutes into the second half. The second yellow card automatically resulted in a red card and he was sent off. Nonu was also later cited for the dangerous tackle.

After considering video evidence and hearing submissions from Nonu and his representatives, SANZAR Judicial Officer Nigel Hampton QC upheld the citing on the basis that Nonu did not use his arms in the tackle and the first impact was with his shoulder into Cowan’s neck.
What gets me is if you look at the footage, he made no attempt to use his arm, his shoulder is clearly turned to face into the man, and he took Cowan out while Cowan was in the air.
Only 1 week? If this was Bakkies (not that I like him in this format of play) he would have been out for 2/3 weeks. Bloody agents !!
Mr Hampton said he believed the tackle was at the lower end of the scale of seriousness, but mitigating factors included Nonu’s acceptance of guilt, and a written submission from Cowan in support of Nonu.
This also pi$$es me off to no end.
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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Got this on a tweet:

NZ Herald rugby writer on Ma'a Nonu's one-week ban: 'If Bakkies Botha had delivered the same hit on Dan Carter, there would be an outcry.'
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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The Hurricanes and the Crusaders game has been cancelled due to the tragic earthquake in Christchurch.
Each team will take away 2 points as if it were a draw.

I am glad sensibility reigned.
I really feel for those poor people down there.
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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The Cheetah and Lion games were almost mirror images of each other.
Bot had the game under control at one point, but lax defense and poor individual on-field decisions cost them both.
Both lost by 2 points after opposition tries were converted.
Both chucked away winning points by not converting kicks.
Both left me ugly disappointed.
:-(

I worried that the Cheetahs were able to hold the Boks.. argh I mean Bulls, off like that for big parts of the game.
The boks coaching staff will have to pay attention.
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So the Crusaders beat the Waratahs this morning 33-18.
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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Yea, by SBru for this w-end started bad.

Everybody should have known they will make a big comeback after the disaster on the home front.
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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I had Crusaders by 12 on SBru
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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How would it suck if the vodacom logo got burnt onto my plasma screen. Pity the Lions lost they played a good game. Bulls will take it tonight...
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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senile wrote:Bulls will take it tonight...
ofc they will. Oh wait...
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Sojourn wrote:
ofc they will. Oh wait...
They took it very well. I will not type from which direction they took it because it's a family forum :)

So close for the Toyota Cheetas, but again it's the discipline that let them down.
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Woohoo.

Sharks won their first tour match and the Bulls lost at home against a mediocre Highlanders outfit. hahaha!
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Someone explain to me what the big whoo haa was aout having a results post if no results are posted :scratch:
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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Sidey was suspended for three weeks for that dangerous tackle against Ndungane.
Luckaly he seems to have shrug it off, but it was quite a scare.

So... do you feel 3 weeks are enough considering Jean Smith got 4 weeks for his sideways tackle and Bakkies got 9 weeks for his head games? I don't.

The down-under teams will always get off lighter, fact we have to make peace with.
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I feel that in comparison with Juan Smith's ban of 4 weeks, I think he got of very lightly. But I think they also take into account your previous misdemeanors and Bakkies is no angel. Bakkies is basically a repeat offender. :D

If you look at it in the context of severity only, then yes, he should have probably been banned for the season. That was very dangerous and dare I say premeditated.
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CapNemo wrote:Someone explain to me what the big whoo haa was about having a results post if no results are posted :scratch:
Ill do that today.
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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Icepick, all I ask for is consistency.
If infringement X is punished by 1 week and infringement Y is punished by 6 weeks, it needs to remain that way no matter what name or nationality caused it.
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Sojourn wrote:Icepick, all I ask for is consistency.
If infringement X is punished by 1 week and infringement Y is punished by 6 weeks, it needs to remain that way no matter what name or nationality caused it.
I feel the same way. It seems the SA sides are always punished harsher than the OZ and AUS sides.

But I can also see the other side of the coin. If the person is a repeat offender, then the punishment is harsher and they also look if he intended to hurt the other player.

I've played a lot of rugby and I can tell you that a spear tackle happens in a split second without me (the tackler) even trying to do it intentionally. So all these things get taken in account at the hearing.

But I do agree with you. Infringement A must always carry a ban of x weeks and so forth. I think then the players will know that when they do that, their punishment will be that.
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Re: Super 15 - 2011

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IcePick88 wrote:
Sojourn wrote:Icepick, all I ask for is consistency.
If infringement X is punished by 1 week and infringement Y is punished by 6 weeks, it needs to remain that way no matter what name or nationality caused it.
I feel the same way. It seems the SA sides are always punished harsher than the OZ and AUS sides.

But I can also see the other side of the coin. If the person is a repeat offender, then the punishment is harsher and they also look if he intended to hurt the other player.

I've played a lot of rugby and I can tell you that a spear tackle happens in a split second without me (the tackler) even trying to do it intentionally. So all these things get taken in account at the hearing.

But I do agree with you. Infringement A must always carry a ban of x weeks and so forth. I think then the players will know that when they do that, their punishment will be that.
There is a major difference between an unintentional spear tackle which happens like you say in a twitch of a second and grinding your boots into the ground and getting down low for it
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