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(pronounced /ˈskaʊs/) is the accent and dialect of English found in the city of Liverpool, and in some adjoining urban areas of Merseyside, mainly The Wirral but also in the new town areas of Runcorn and Skelmersdale. The Scouse accent is highly distinctive and sounds wholly different from the accents used in the neighbouring regions of Cheshire and rural Lancashire. Inhabitants of Liverpool are called Liverpudlians, but are more often described by the colloquialism Scousers.
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Liverpool FTW started supporting them when Owen was still playing :)
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Oh yes - I am so old I became a fan when Kenny Dalglish became popular as a player.
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I supported Liverpool since the age of 4. So I deserve to be called a die-hard 8)
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I support them but i have no idea quite who is in the team these days :oops:
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And they are doing sooooo well. I am really impressed this season. ManU is running scared :twisted:
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ManU is running scared
i would hardly think so - we are 7 points behind liverpool with 2 games in hand - so thats a potential 6 points more for us - in fact id say we are satisfied that in the second round liverpool will lose to chelsea and arsenal and also lose to us at Old Trafford for sure - so you can think what you like - the problem for you is that the title isnt won in January - its won in May - and the last 16 years of the premier league have proven that Liverpool havent got what it takes come May in terms of the premier league - whereas United have proven eleven times that we do have what it takes

BTW if anyone is wondering why im going off topic here im not gonna take a direct challenge like that without replying to it - lets talk again in May - theres only 20 games gone (18 for united) and still 18 games to go (20 for united) with chelsea still breathing down your back

as for those two games that united have in hand - we might need them to overcome chelsea but not liverpool cos with in another 10 games i expect to have overtaken liverpool with those two games still in hand :P :P
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ManU is running scared
i would hardly think so - we are 7 points behind liverpool with 2 games in hand - so thats a potential 6 points more for us - in fact id say we are satisfied that in the second round liverpool will lose to chelsea and arsenal and also lose to us at Old Trafford for sure - so you can think what you like - the problem for you is that the title isnt won in January - its won in May - and the last 16 years of the premier league have proven that Liverpool havent got what it takes come May in terms of the premier league - whereas United have proven eleven times that we do have what it takes

BTW if anyone is wondering why im going off topic here im not gonna take a direct challenge like that without replying to it - lets talk again in May - theres only 20 games gone (18 for united) and still 18 games to go (20 for united) with chelsea still breathing down your back

as for those two games that united have in hand - we might need them to overcome chelsea but not liverpool cos with in another 10 games i expect to have overtaken liverpool with those two games still in hand :P :P
Typical Manc response. Seems all Red Devil fans are scared of competition from their fellow North West rivals.

Have you considered that this squad is assembled on a much smaller budget than Old Trafford's treasure chest and are actually competing this year?
And actually Liverpool have been 16-20 points off @ Christmas the last few years and due to that gap, their strong run-in means 3rd or 4th place is all that they usually fight for?

Games in hand is never guaranteed points AND the competition will be great as Chelsea are flattering to deceive at the moment.

We'll see come May if Liverpool are pretenders to the Championship throne or cave-in to the pressure like in 1996/97. I hope for the former, as number 19 will be a great achievement for the best club side England have ever produced.

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I was a liverpool supporter when i was still interested in football. Then i turned 13 :lol:
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Typical Manc response. Seems all Red Devil fans are scared of competition from their fellow North West rivals.
see guy - do what we all else do - win it then talk big - dont talk big halfway through the season then when you lose you dont have a face - its still way to early to even say who will be in the race - leave alone who will win it
Games in hand is never guaranteed points
agreed - which is why i say i hope we wont even need those games in hand to see off liverpool - by then their eventual inevitable collapse due to peaking too early (see arsenal last season) would already have occurred - besides by claiming we cant guarantee those points in hand i can say in the same breath dont count on that title just yet

in the meantime saying that united are running scared in a thread started about the mighty liverpool (FFS its the first time in 16 years they are leading and they still havent won yet) is to me an act of cowardice from fans who are actually fearing the worst and anticipating the collapse any moment now hence trying to nervously show us that they are not scared
the best club side England have ever produced.
you base this on what statistic - or is that a purely subjective opinion ??????

dont get me wrong as a follower of football there are players in your team that i admire - and if liverpool do pull it off i will be amongst the few united fans that will actually come up to your face and say well done - good stuff and congratulations - but in the meantime dont count your chickens before they hatch
Have you considered that this squad is assembled on a much smaller budget than Old Trafford's treasure chest and are actually competing this year?
so whose fault it it that united know how to run the club as a business and hence can buy the players they need instead of scrounging around like everyone else :?: :mrgreen: - besides if you play good football you get to fill 75000 seats on an average per game and also have 30000 people waiting in a list to buy season tickets - manchester united does :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

BTW people - enough about united - i wont mention united anymore on this thread if none of you scousers do - i was just reacting to a negative comment that should have been left unsaid - it would have prevented the usual phallic jousts :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Typical Manc response. Seems all Red Devil fans are scared of competition from their fellow North West rivals.
see guy - do what we all else do - win it then talk big - dont talk big halfway through the season then when you lose you dont have a face - its still way to early to even say who will be in the race - leave alone who will win it
Games in hand is never guaranteed points
agreed - which is why i say i hope we wont even need those games in hand to see off liverpool - by then their eventual inevitable collapse due to peaking too early (see arsenal last season) would already have occurred - besides by claiming we cant guarantee those points in hand i can say in the same breath dont count on that title just yet

in the meantime saying that united are running scared in a thread started about the mighty liverpool (FFS its the first time in 16 years they are leading and they still havent won yet) is to me an act of cowardice from fans who are actually fearing the worst and anticipating the collapse any moment now hence trying to nervously show us that they are not scared
the best club side England have ever produced.
you base this on what statistic - or is that a purely subjective opinion ??????

dont get me wrong as a follower of football there are players in your team that i admire - and if liverpool do pull it off i will be amongst the few united fans that will actually come up to your face and say well done - good stuff and congratulations - but in the meantime dont count your chickens before they hatch
Have you considered that this squad is assembled on a much smaller budget than Old Trafford's treasure chest and are actually competing this year?
so whose fault it it that united know how to run the club as a business and hence can buy the players they need instead of scrounging around like everyone else :?: :mrgreen: - besides if you play good football you get to fill 75000 seats on an average per game and also have 30000 people waiting in a list to buy season tickets - manchester united does :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

BTW people - enough about united - i wont mention united anymore on this thread if none of you scousers do - i was just reacting to a negative comment that should have been left unsaid - it would have prevented the usual phallic jousts :roll: :roll: :roll:
I merely highlighted the fallacy in your response. In fact, I never spoke big ... as far as i'm concerned this is a great chance for Liverpool to win the title.

Big talk is reserved for Chelsea (another soulless club) and Manchester United. PERIOD !!!

Man Utd sold there soul to commercialisation which gave them the springboard to be financially strong - as they are today. They simply filled the vacuum that Liverpool left with the turmoil of the Heysel and Hillsborough disaster. And due to the finances they (Man U) can have a 75 000+ stadium.

Liverpool fill Anfield every other week, so despite a smaller capacity, that argument is rather pathetic. So Reds season ticket holders aren't clamouring for a seat in their 1000s?

The collective number of trophies that Liverpool has outweighs the amount Man Utd have, so that warrants them being the best club England has ever produced. The BBC also voted Liverpool the best club of the 20th century ... which is a great accolade as an example.

United, since Fergie, arrived have been doing their best to eclipse the Reds. Good luck to them!

United supporters are also quite arrogant, highlighted by your repsonse, which is to the chagrin of many a Liverpool supporter - including myself.

Why compare 'Pool to Arsenal? Arsenal don't have the bottle ... which was highlighted last year.
Liverpool have, and will continue to show the heart for a battle this year, and seasons to come. Bentiz's boys have turned the corner for the better.

Also look at stats before you spew the usual drivel about a collapse. You can use Google to see the points gained from Christmas to the end of the season the last 4 years for Liverpool. It compares favourably to the usual title contenders (Man Utd/Chelsea). Also, Reina has been the winner of the Golden Glove trophy the past few seasons running. It speaks volumes for an improving defence, the basis of any title challenging side.

Once Liverpool sort out the forward line to bang in the goals on a regular basis, the championship will become a reality.

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maestro_za wrote: I merely highlighted the fallacy in your response. In fact, I never spoke big ... as far as i'm concerned this is a great chance for Liverpool to win the title.

what fallacy - you are still speaking big - liverpool have won nothing yet :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Big talk is reserved for Chelsea (another soulless club) and Manchester United. PERIOD !!!

dude - you are just proving otherwise right now :roll: :roll: :roll:

Man Utd sold there soul to commercialisation which gave them the springboard to be financially strong - as they are today. They simply filled the vacuum that Liverpool left with the turmoil of the Heysel and Hillsborough disaster. And due to the finances they (Man U) can have a 75 000+ stadium.

oh just dont talk rot - every liverpool fan dreams of the day they can have as much money to buy players as all the other teams - their business model was just not as successful - just that they sold out to idiots who were out to make money from them insteads of idiots who just leave them to their own devices - if liverpool were not clever enough dont blame everybody else ....fullstop - you talk of disaster as if disaster didnt happen to united too - remember munich there wasnt much tem left thereafter -= if that hadnt happened - your collection of silverware wouldnt have been half as big as it is now - so liverpool owes disaster just as much as any other team

Liverpool fill Anfield every other week, so despite a smaller capacity, that argument is rather pathetic. So Reds season ticket holders aren't clamouring for a seat in their 1000s?

yet why is it you'll cannot buy the players you need - and need to go crawling to billionaire owners begging for cash - is it cos they are greedy gits :roll: :roll: :roll: unlike the owners of other clubs who buy players when needed - when old trafford gets filled - it contributes to wages that current players earn and also toward buying more players - an dthats the point - its not merely to fill the stadium

The collective number of trophies that Liverpool has outweighs the amount Man Utd have, so that warrants them being the best club England has ever produced. The BBC also voted Liverpool the best club of the 20th century ... which is a great accolade as an example.

but they have disappeared as a force in the 21st century - which is now - they havent wont a premier league title ever - the premier league exists for 16 years - so far even blackburn rovers have won the premier league once - which liverpool have failed to do

United, since Fergie, arrived have been doing their best to eclipse the Reds. Good luck to them!

they have cos look at your collection of silverware in the last 22 years and look at uniteds - if that isn an eclipsing i dont know what is - united will soon overtake the total trophy haul - give it another 10 years more and we can have this discussion again

United supporters are also quite arrogant, highlighted by your repsonse, which is to the chagrin of many a Liverpool supporter - including myself.

who is the one being arrogant here - i have stated above
"dont get me wrong as a follower of football there are players in your team that i admire - and if liverpool do pull it off i will be amongst the few united fans that will actually come up to your face and say well done - good stuff and congratulations - but in the meantime dont count your chickens before they hatch" which is basically good advice - win the league then talk - no use to talk now and collapse later

Why compare 'Pool to Arsenal? Arsenal don't have the bottle ... which was highlighted last year.

arsenal unlike liverpool have wont the premier league three times - liverpool have done nothing much in the last 16 years domestically - dont be concerned too much about so far in the past when you are not doing anything currently - otherwise you may make me think you are like a typical Real Madrid fan and those idiots are less than human :roll: :roll: :roll:

Liverpool have, and will continue to show the heart for a battle this year, and seasons to come. Bentiz's boys have turned the corner for the better.

maybe they have maybe they havent - come may we will see if what you say has a glimmer of truth - but then again again they may win one more time and then after collapse back into obscurity for another 22 years more ...... who knows

Also look at stats before you spew the usual drivel about a collapse. You can use Google to see the points gained from Christmas to the end of the season the last 4 years for Liverpool. It compares favourably to the usual title contenders (Man Utd/Chelsea). Also, Reina has been the winner of the Golden Glove trophy the past few seasons running. It speaks volumes for an improving defence, the basis of any title challenging side.

ah yeah the usual response of stats - ignore the games in hand but look at every other stat to prove why at the halfway mark the person leading will win :roll: - okay i'll play along - united or chelsea dont have a xhance this year according to liverpool fans so we may as well give up :roll:

Once Liverpool sort out the forward line to bang in the goals on a regular basis, the championship will become a reality.

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*Cough* You know what ... we'll agree to disagree.

You trolled this thread to begin with and now it degenerated to pettiness which is fine. That's how every United supporter gets a kick out of life.

I @ least had the balls to get involved in the same old exercise with a Man Utd supporter ... ever since I started supporting this side in 1984.

You highlight that if Liverpool win the title this year you'll be the first to congratulate the club for such an achievement ... which is a hollow sentiment I'm afraid.

But then you get go around trash talking the club, which is also fine. I'm not the CEO, a board member or an official of the club. I'm a loyal Liverpool supporter and will do so till the day I die.

Liverpool have made mistakes as a club, which has meant that playing catch-up has been the what they've had to do. It's due to many factors, which you're happy to gleem over.

However, the Reds have a great squad now that has a good balance from defence to attack. A few more pieces need to be added to make them top of the pile in terms of the championship.

Remember, the self-same Manchester United never won the title in 32 years before doing so in the early 90's. In the very time that Liverpool weren't winning or challenging for the title they managed to win 2 League Cups, 2 FA Cups, 1 UEFA Cup, UEFA Champions League, UEFA Super Cup and a Community Shield. So the 90's and millennium wasn't as disastrous as you, Man Utd supporters, and pundits want to make out.

The disaster @ Heysel meant an unfair ban from European competition for 10 years. If that doesn't affect a team's finances, I don't know what will. I will applaud United for springing on a great opportunity to grab $$$ that came into football come the early 1990's. They took it and ran with it!

I will only be happy to see Manchester United try and take the collective trophy haul away from Liverpool. It took them long enough to catch up hasn't it? Liverpool are a great club steeped in a rich tradition, built on family values and a healthy conveyor belt of talent.

Talent costs money these days, and if Man Utd are happy to pay over the odds for player talent ... that's their policy.

Success is coupled with luck and a cycle. Luck in getting a bunch of players that can challenge year in and year out. It also works in a cycle. Remember from 1965 to 1990, Liverpool won a trophy almost every other year. A stat which is great in itself.

If you wish to equate me to a Real Madrid fan, which are a bunch of idiots that's less than human (your words) ... that's also fine. That should be the basis of an infraction on this forum, as that has crossed the line from a debate to a personal attack.

Something I won't entertain.

And who says Manchester United won't fall into a level of obscurity someday? You see how your bias makes you go into the unnecessary vileness which plagues many a Man U fanboi?

That's why I'm glad I don't steep to that lowness. And also it highlights why supporters of other clubs dislike Manchester United. Where success breeds arrogance and a blinkered outlook on football.

Good luck dude. This is the last time I respond to anything you have to say.

I had lots of respect for your knowledge on all things audio related, but this episode brings me to the conclusion that your hatred for Liverpool and personal attacks doesn't warrant a decent conversation in future.

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You trolled this thread to begin with
utter bollocks - yes its a liverpool thread but then you lot mentioning united and i reiterate " ManU is running scared :twisted:" was totally disrespectful and an invitation for a rebuttal - firstly because ManU is not how to refer to the club - mainly cause it was a chant that refereed to the munich air disaster that was begun by leeds supporters who rubbed the air crah in united fans faces - secondly i left this thread alone for so long because it had nothing to do with me - ie i dont follow liverpool - but to say that united are running scared is a bit rich as much as it is a bunch of taurus excretus - they dont have anything to fear from someone else being on the top midway through a season
I had lots of respect for your knowledge on all things audio related, but this episode brings me to the conclusion that your hatred for Liverpool and personal attacks doesn't warrant a decent conversation in future.
yeah - your respect is much documented over at systemshock - you are so full of "taurus excretus" that you were banned for a few days for your respect ....... you were found to be a blatant liar as well - i rest my case

as for liverpool - i dont hate them - its just football - lots of my friends support liverpool - i still get on with them regardless - if i did truly hate them as you suggest then id want only united in a league - which is ridiculous - you cannot just play yourself - so take your blinkers off before trying to read my mind and stating that i hate them
If you wish to equate me to a Real Madrid fan, which are a bunch of idiots that's less than human (your words) ... that's also fine. That should be the basis of an infraction on this forum, as that has crossed the line from a debate to a personal attack.
so complain to a moderator and lets see if they take it as serious as you seem intent on doing - since you want to clutch at straws
It took them long enough to catch up hasn't it?


hahahahhaha and liverpool built up their history overnight huh - bill shankley went to sleep one night and woke up the next morning and liverpool had 17 top flight league titles to their name - what a ridiculous argument
Where success breeds arrogance and a blinkered outlook on football.
and i can say the exact same about "PAST" success notice the emphasis on "past"
Good luck dude. This is the last time I respond to anything you have to say
i can but live in hope - though i am sure that this hope will be short lived cos im confident you will respond
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Let me entertain your jibe one last time ...

Systemshock? I was never a member on that forum ... and therefore wasn't banned from it or any other forum.

Your information is false in this regard.

I'm a forum member on this site, xbox-360.co.za, and myadsl locally. Under the nickname of maestro_za I might add. So that was a silly remark to make. But it's fine!

Clutching at straws ... etc .. etc ... yawn ... that was entertaining really. Did I say Liverpool won their titles overnight, as an example?

I think you need to re-read my responses in this very thread. In terms of the so-called "taurus excretus" that's your words dude. I also haven't tried to read your mind, which will be an achievement to say the least.

I didn't utter any malice, other than ManU ... which is as you say has a bad connotation ... so be it. There are far worse things in this world!

Your welcome to your opinion, and I too mine. My opinion remains that 'Pool have made a fantastic start. Their best in the Premiership years! The side is developing and the club as a whole is moving in the right direction. I'm confident that the league title can be won with Benitez in charge.

In terms of the mods, if they don't take your personal attacks directed at me in this thread seriously, that's an admin issue. It's in black and white for all too see, which is fine by me.

I consider the matter closed!

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blah blah blah - what happened to
This is the last time I respond to anything you have to say
you are a born liar - its just been proved - no more needs be said
I consider the matter closed!
lets see how long this lasts :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
In terms of the mods, if they don't take your personal attacks directed at me in this thread seriously
personal attacks :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: - no-one died to make you that important so dont be delusional

and on that note - i rest my case - i wont say anything else to you in this thread - doesnt mean i dont need to say anything to others - this is the internets after all - you dont own it
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So I'm not allowed to defend myself?

If you feel I'm a born liar ... then you have more insight into who I am than I thought!

You're also a liar to contend that I was banned from Systemshock. It's an attack on my person and you're callous and not worthy of further comment.

It's been noted and forwarded to site admin.

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Dudes, this is lame. Please take it to PM.
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DAE_JA_VOO wrote:Dudes, this is lame. Please take it to PM.
Who me? I have no desire to "speak" to naughty again. Personal attacks aren't my style!
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Wow - all I did was repeat what one of the commentators said on SS - and this occurs. They were discussing the scores and the one chap said "Manchester United (I shortened it to ManU as I am lazy) are running scared" and then he laughed. The other chap then defended Manchester United (wow this typing their name out is a pain). You two have issues unrelated to football. My hubby supports Manchester United (far too long a name) and I am an avid Liverpool supporter. We have tons of fun arguing when they play together - but it is fun.

Relax and I am sorry you took my comment so literally.
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Re: The liverpool thread.

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Tribble wrote:Wow - all I did was repeat what one of the commentators said on SS - and this occurs. They were discussing the scores and the one chap said "Manchester United (I shortened it to ManU as I am lazy) are running scared" and then he laughed. The other chap then defended Manchester United (wow this typing their name out is a pain). You two have issues unrelated to football. My hubby supports Manchester United (far too long a name) and I am an avid Liverpool supporter. We have tons of fun arguing when they play together - but it is fun.

Relax and I am sorry you took my comment so literally.
to educate you a bit - an insight into the reason why united supporters get edgy over the term ManU
Man .U. is not a term United fans refer to themselves as. The term is only used by other supporters as a complete and utter insult to our club. The "U" is meant to be "you" by the rival fans.

An early example of its usage is this chant by West Brom fans: "Duncan Edwards is manure, rotting in his grave, man you are manure- rotting in your grave". The origin of "Man .U." is a song to insult the dead Duncan Edwards.

Liverpool and Leeds fans copied this with their own man you /u versions to insult all of the lads who died at munich.

"Man .U. Man .U. went on a plane Man .U. Man .U. never came back again"

and..

"Man .U. Never Intended Coming Home" (if you combine the first letter of each word you get the word "munich").

I hope this makes it clearer that saying man .u. is an insult, particularly to the older supporters and to see United fans using it now is shameful. I hope a few might read this, understand and spread the word.

So... Please REFRAIN from using this term ever again.
"Manchester United (I shortened it to ManU as I am lazy) are running scared" and then he laughed
the fact that he laughed demonstrates

1) he meant it as a joke
2) he was in no way serious

so it shows the dangers of wildly quoting other people without understanding the implications of what you are actually quoting - sorry to be blunt - but thats just how it is with things like this cos many people are passionate about the clubs they support

i entered the thread cos i see no correlation with Liverpool or how they affect how Manchester United would be feeling over how they are doing - united need to concentrate on their own game without being overly concerned with how other teams are doing until they play them - which will be happening soon enough at Old Trafford this time i might add :wink:
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Re: The liverpool thread.

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Wow - I am old - really old - and I was unaware of the origins of the word. I merely believed it to be a contraction. I shall not use it in future.

It does not change one fact though - Liverpool are going to win :twisted:
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It does not change one fact though - Liverpool are going to win
sure maybe ....... but you failed to say in which year - it might be in 10 years time :twisted:
I shall not use it in future.
thank you - that there proves to me conclusively that there are indeed decent people left in the world who do support liverpool - i respect you for your understanding :wink:
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Re: The liverpool thread.

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ROFL - :wink:

I shall then be more specific - Liverpool will win the next 5 years :twisted:
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