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KALSTER wrote:I heard about a spray that makes your registration plate difficult to read with cameras. Makes it fluorescent or something, showing as white. Not sure if it is true and would of course never, ever use such a thing...
If such stuff exists then I will not hesitate to use it.
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Tribble wrote:Of course not
why not, we need something to stop ourselves from getting robbed by SANFAIL
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THE_STIG wrote:But is it also true that if your car is registered in a different Provence you dont pay toll?
Wrong.
KALSTER wrote:I heard about a spray that makes your registration plate difficult to read with cameras. Makes it fluorescent or something, showing as white. Not sure if it is true and would of course never, ever use such a thing...
Wrong. The cameras don't have flashes - that's what those nice blue/purple light are for.

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TNA wrote:Hoax phone calls are being made warning road users that their cars will be confiscated if they are not registered for the Gauteng e-tolling system, the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) said on Tuesday.

"It has been brought to Sanral's attention that road users have been contacted by people claiming to be Sanral staff members and providing users with their vehicle licence details," it said in a statement.

It urged the public to report calls to the fraud hotline on 080-020-4558, as Sanral had not instructed anyone to contact vehicle owners.

"Sanral again emphasises that nobody's vehicle can be taken away from them if they choose not to register."

Earlier, the Congress of SA Trade Unions said it would mobilise two million members to take part in national protests against the e-tolling system from April 23.

These would lead up to a large "national stay-away or socio-economic strike" on April 30, when the tolls are to be implemented, Cosatu spokesman Patrick Craven said. -Sapa
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How can they have a fraud hotline when what they are doing is fraud
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THE_STIG wrote:How can they have a fraud hotline when what they are doing is fraud
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Stuart wrote:
THE_STIG wrote:How can they have a fraud hotline when what they are doing is fraud
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For once, young whippersnapper, we are in total agreement. :thumbup:
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doo_much wrote:For once, young whippersnapper, we are in total agreement. :thumbup:
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Resuscitation time.

Interesting that the 'gifted ones' haven't launched an attack on the SANRAL website? Or have they tried and failed.

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we have both gotten tags as RRF as done the sums and for him to use the back roads to work is going to cost him more in petrol than it would to pay for the toll as well as his normal petrol per month...

for me it's cause my car is registered in KZN and to ensure that I don't pay the day charges every time we use my car I have to register...
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Ahhh, sou you've given in to the financial blackmail?

So much for civil disobedience... :?

I will not use an alternative route since the added distance would cost me more in fuel than tolls would. And, being a law-abiding citizen, I will of course pay these tolls promptly when they are invoiced.
If, of course, I agree with the charges. Barring which I might have to query the whole thing. (Wonder how these 'invoices' will look and how detailed they will be??)

But buy and e-tag? I'd rather pay more on tolls.
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Me dad just made a rather good point.

If you don't have an e-tag and you're cruising at 10km/h under one of the gantries in bumper-to-bumper traffic, how effective are the cameras going to be???
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I haven't bought an e-tag.
doo_much wrote:how effective are the cameras going to be???
Effective for what?
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meh Call me a sellout but I will be registering for a 2 day passes for my visit up to JHB this weekend for Nickleback & family time. If they do get the fine thing working 100% I don't need to get whacked with this huge bill...
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GDI_Lord wrote:I haven't bought an e-tag.
doo_much wrote:how effective are the cameras going to be???
Effective for what?
I assuming that - if you don't have an e-tag - they'd have to snap your number plate in order to bill you? If the cars in front and at the back of you are obscuring you numberplate, then...?
Anakha56 wrote:meh Call me a sellout but I will be registering for a 2 day passes for my visit up to JHB this weekend for Nickleback & family time. If they do get the fine thing working 100% I don't need to get whacked with this huge bill...
Which is your democratic right. We'll support you as well once they start tolling every darn road in KZN. :thumbup:
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Anakha56 wrote:my visit up to JHB this weekend for Nickleback
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Anakha56 wrote:my visit up to JHB this weekend for Nickleback
Kill yourself...
I was waiting for someone to comment on that. This man has bigger problems than etags.
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doo_much wrote:I assuming that - if you don't have an e-tag - they'd have to snap your number plate in order to bill you? If the cars in front and at the back of you are obscuring you numberplate, then...?
Because cameras are rubbish and they cannot in any way, shape or form take a picture of your licence disk sticker on your windshield and process that. Or send that image to a human who has to be paid a salary to look a the ultra-hi-res picture and then issue you a ticket.

Really dude. This is the 21st century. If satellites in the 70's could read the brand of cigarette packet in a man's hand, cameras are capable of taking a good picture of your licence disk. (One could, of course, then straddle the lanes going through the gantries and *try* to avoid the licence disk cameras that way... ;- )
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Stuart wrote:
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Anakha56 wrote:my visit up to JHB this weekend for Nickleback
Kill yourself...
I was waiting for someone to comment on that. This man has bigger problems than etags.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Its her Christmas gift and I get some really good points so its not that big a problem ;). The problem is the drive in JHB... <_<

@doo I am already prepared for that. They just need to decide where they are going to put the toll road (planning since 2006) and once I know that information I will find out if my alternate route works and if not what the company will be giving as a increase to counter the toll. I think they are waiting to see how effective JHB is with their toll before they make a decision.

Also for me a day pass is R50 and is unlimited use of the roads for 24hr's and I just need 2. So that is a R100 bucks and no fine whereas the fine could work out to be a whole lot more.

*dons tinfoil hat*

I am thinking that this e-toll is a way for the Prez to pay for his home upgrade since they already relocated funds from other projects for it so why not skim some off the top... ;)

Oh and why not get a clear gel pack to go over the license disk? Insert a oil like substance into it so that when the light hits you get weird light reflection just make sure wherever you stop in public to remove said pack so you don't get caught...

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GDI_Lord wrote:
doo_much wrote:I assuming that - if you don't have an e-tag - they'd have to snap your number plate in order to bill you? If the cars in front and at the back of you are obscuring you numberplate, then...?
Because cameras are rubbish and they cannot in any way, shape or form take a picture of your licence disk sticker on your windshield and process that. Or send that image to a human who has to be paid a salary to look a the ultra-hi-res picture and then issue you a ticket.

Really dude. This is the 21st century. If satellites in the 70's could read the brand of cigarette packet in a man's hand, cameras are capable of taking a good picture of your licence disk. (One could, of course, then straddle the lanes going through the gantries and *try* to avoid the licence disk cameras that way... ;- )
Having wound my way through the treacly muck of ill conceived sarcasm, I gather the impression that you are saying they'll be snapping our license discs(as well?) - which is news to me. Interesting.

Thanks, I'll have a read-up on that.


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Hmmm.

Seems we're stuck with 'old' tech.
SANRAL website wrote: Do I need to slow down when I get to the toll gantry?

No. The technology on the gantry is able to read the vehicle number plate and/or e-tag at any speed.
Except if they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes?
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