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Yet another zombie clawing out of its grave! Bow before Necromancer Mina!!!

But again, I wanted to respond:
GreyWolf wrote:I don't know... Having a sex change op makes about as much sense (and is about as natural to me) as an op to change your skin pigment. You are born the way you are born, and no amount of surgery will be able to make you into a genuine female, and completely hide your true identity.
Physically no, you're right. But the point is to help a transsexual person live with their dysphoria, and while the knowledge of one's history and biology really, REALLY sucks, assuming the correct gender-role and appearance does help alot since humans form a large part of their identity through a phenomenon known as "reflection", which is basically just where other people perceive you the way you perceive yourself.

Just for interest, there are actually many women out there who are chromosomally male - XY, but are born and develop female. They have an intersex condition called Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS), which makes their bodies totally unreceptive to testosterone. Since all foetuses start out female, they simply never differentiate and stay female. Usually they'll only find out they have AIS when they hit puberty and fail to menstruate. (since most don't have a womb) Even that is not universal. All AIS women are sterile though, and that's usually where they find out - when they go for fertility treatments.

As a final note, apart from XX-female and XY-male, there are about 17 other chromosomal intersex types - XXY, XO, XXX and variations that occur fairly commonly aside from purely physical or endocrine intersex conditions - those push the number of distinct "sexes" as such up into the 50's. One in about 100 people is born intersex, and incidences are rising due to endocrine disrupting chemicals like DDT, Diethyl Stilbetrol, Bisphenol A and various others
Whats even more confusing to me are transexuals who insist they are not gay. I am sorry but that is just a set up for mysery, because I do not know of any single male heteroselxual (apart from Jamin) who would chose a transexual over a real female.
Gender Identity and sexuality have little if anything to do with one another, though they are both seated in the hypothalamus and seem to be impacted by the same endocrine disruptors and stresses, but based on other factors such as genetics and stuff, a foetus develops either homosexual, or transgender, or both.

Most trans people actually end up alone, and while they're as prone to loneliness as anybody else, it's a sacrifice they make willingly, because at the end of the day the old maxim of "You have to love yourself before you can really love other people" is very true. Gender Identity has todo with with your sense of yourself, of having that sense of self in line with your biology and how others perceive you. It has nothing to do with who you're attracted to.

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mina.magpie, I have learnt a lot - thanks. I have no problem with people who feel they were born in the wrong bodies, taking steps to rectify it. I believe it is none of my business. I believe we have to be happy - there is no point living a life where you are not happy. I had a friend who was gay - we dated as he was trying to go straight. It didn't work. No matter how much he fought it - we was who he was. Society was making him miserable. He is now openly gay - has a partner and is very happy. Why should we not wish that for transgender people too?
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Thanks Tribble. That means alot. :)

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more pics for jamin....

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and as a side note.....

jammie, she is on facebook...(if you didnt know) o.0
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Maybe you guys should invite her (?) to come and see this thread. :D
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www.katu.com wrote:Transgender pastor tells all

The Epworth United Methodist Church has strong roots, dating back to its founding in 1935, but its members welcome a break from tradition.

That break can be no more easily personified than with pastor David Weekley.

"We liked him from the beginning," said church member George Azumano.

More than two years ago, the Reverend Weekley became the church's pastor. It wasn't until just a month ago, in a sermon to his congregation of about 220, that he revealed a secret.

For Weekley, "you could have heard a pin drop," he said. "It had been 27 years, but now felt like the time."

For Robbie Tsuboi, who was there in the pews, "this was the sermon, of his life."

Weekley was born a woman, but never quite felt female. In his early 20s he under-went surgery to become a man.

A few years later he became ordained - all the while, keeping his transition a secret. He said he really did not think there would be an issue.

"Then I realized that the church could have issue with it and try to strip my ordination," he said. "And that's when I decided not to talk about it publicly until I discerned how to handle that."

Weekley said it became very stressful keeping this secret over the years. As such, he said he was essentially living in isolation. It wasn't until recently, after winning an award for his anonymous blog entries about inclusion for all people in the church, that he came out.

"The congregation accepted it without question," Azumano said.

For the congregation, they are indeed taking it in stride.

"I was surprised, because I had no idea," said Tsuboi, "but I was really happy he was going to get this off his chest and be relieved. It's a burden to carry that all by yourself."

Weekley said the support has been overwhelming, and he hopes his experience will help others. However, his ordination could be on the line. He said the United Methodist Church could pass legislation to ban transgender clergy in 2012.

"I hope I have time to talk to people, to help educate, to do whatever I can to be an advocate," he said.

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jamin_za wrote:
www.katu.com wrote:Transgender pastor tells all

The Epworth United Methodist Church has strong roots, dating back to its founding in 1935, but its members welcome a break from tradition.

That break can be no more easily personified than with pastor David Weekley.

"We liked him from the beginning," said church member George Azumano.

More than two years ago, the Reverend Weekley became the church's pastor. It wasn't until just a month ago, in a sermon to his congregation of about 220, that he revealed a secret.

For Weekley, "you could have heard a pin drop," he said. "It had been 27 years, but now felt like the time."

For Robbie Tsuboi, who was there in the pews, "this was the sermon, of his life."

Weekley was born a woman, but never quite felt female. In his early 20s he under-went surgery to become a man.

A few years later he became ordained - all the while, keeping his transition a secret. He said he really did not think there would be an issue.

"Then I realized that the church could have issue with it and try to strip my ordination," he said. "And that's when I decided not to talk about it publicly until I discerned how to handle that."

Weekley said it became very stressful keeping this secret over the years. As such, he said he was essentially living in isolation. It wasn't until recently, after winning an award for his anonymous blog entries about inclusion for all people in the church, that he came out.

"The congregation accepted it without question," Azumano said.

For the congregation, they are indeed taking it in stride.

"I was surprised, because I had no idea," said Tsuboi, "but I was really happy he was going to get this off his chest and be relieved. It's a burden to carry that all by yourself."

Weekley said the support has been overwhelming, and he hopes his experience will help others. However, his ordination could be on the line. He said the United Methodist Church could pass legislation to ban transgender clergy in 2012.

"I hope I have time to talk to people, to help educate, to do whatever I can to be an advocate," he said.

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JOSIE Romero looks and acts like any other eight-year-old girl - but was born a BOY named Joey.

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At FOUR she insisted to her parents: "I am really a girl." At FIVE she was refusing to have her hair cut. And at SIX she had been diagnosed as transgender.

Now her sex has been legally changed and with the help of drugs and surgery she will grow up to be a woman.

Mum Venessia, 42, said: "As a toddler she wrapped up her army figures and rocked them like a baby.

"As she started to talk, she'd say, 'I'm a girl'. We used to correct her and say, 'No you're a boy'.

"By the time she was four she was insisting, 'No, I really am a girl'."

Hand in hand ... Josie out with family

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At the time Venessia and hubby Joseph, an engineer in the US airforce, were living on a base in Japan. They adopted a Chinese girl aged two - and Josie loved playing with her AND her toys.

When Josie was 5½ a paediatrician referred her to a gender specialist and the family began accepting her as a girl.

Age 5 ... Josie and sister Jade

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Joseph admitted: "I had mourned the loss of my son. When I came to terms with it, I knew I had gained a daughter."

But not everything went smoothly - with daily protests outside the base's school. Since the family returned to Vail, Arizona, last year Josie and her sister Jade have been schooled at home.

Josie's birth certificate, passport and even her social security number have been changed to show her as a girl.

She will be given drugs to prevent male adolescence and, at 12, get female hormones. And she understands she will need surgery as an adult to become a full woman.

Josie - now a spokesperson for transgender children - said: "I am happy everyone knows I am a real girl, and that I don't have to pretend to be a boy any more."

The family are one of several featured at 9pm on Monday in Channel 4's BodyShock documentary Age 8 And Wanting A Sex Change.

The case echoes that of a boy of 12 in Southern England, revealed last month by The Sun. He returned to school from holidays as a girl after his parents changed his name by deed poll.
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Well this girl beats my OP by 6 years.... well done ryanrich, you found the WinRAR
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jamin_za wrote:Well this girl beats my OP by 6 years.... well done ryanrich, you found the WinRAR
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Only time will tell if "she" turns out as seksie... I have my doubts. :o
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Sorry jamin, couldn't find a more appropriate place to put this and I don't like making new threads for nonsense so deal with it!

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Man appears in FHM’s ‘100 Sexiest Women’ list
That readers of FHM have voted an androgynous man in to their most recent list of the 100 Sexiest Women in the World might have been a cause for celebration among equal rights campaigners.

Instead, the magazine has provoked outrage over its warning to readers to “pass the sick bucket” on encountering 19-year-old Andrej Pejic, rather ignoring the fact that it was they who voted for him in the first place.
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I don't know why you have a personal vendetta against my threads, but the only time that pictures of men with make-up and shaved, oiled legs should appear in FHM is when guys play pranks on their drunk, passed out buddies and then send the photo's in as a laugh.

Shame on you FHM Turkmenistan.

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I don't have a vendetta on your threads. I'm just pulling your leg. :P

Luckily I don't read FHM. It's just not a nice feeling thinking how hot a chick is only to find out that it's not a chick... (I would imagine because not like it's ever happened to me...)
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And now for some news from my adopted country:

[quote="www.globalpost.com"]Penis not a prerequisite to being considered a man, Australian court rules

Australian men do not need a penis, the country's High Court has ruled.

Or words to that effect.

What the Australian Associated Press newspaper was trying to convey in this slightly sensationalized lead paragraph was a court ruling that:

"The physical characteristics by which a person is identified as male or female are confined to external physical characteristics that are socially recognizable. Social recognition of a person's gender does not require knowledge of a person's remnant sexual organs."

The ruling arises from an appeal by two transgender people against a decision by Western Australia's Gender Reassignment Board, which refused to issue them certificates of recognition of gender because both retained a female reproductive system.

The pair, who have had their breasts removed and are having testosterone therapy, which renders them infertile, say they are men.

The effect of the judgment is that female-to-male transsexuals do not have to undergo penis construction surgery, which is dangerous and no doubt expensive, given its not performed in Australia, to legally swap genders.

Nor do they have to have their internal female reproductive organs removed for WA to issue them with gender certificates, the West Australian reports.

The paper quoted one of the men as saying:

"After over three years of fighting this case, we are incredibly excited that the High Court has upheld our appeal.

"The High Court has taken a common sense approach to the interpretation of the law, recognizing that it is unrealistic to require people to undertake specific, medically unnecessary surgical requirements that are neither practical nor attainable.

The decision is completely in line with the recommendations of the Australian Human Rights Commission, as well as with other, similar cases around the world."
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Story is just fine WITHOUT pics.

In other news, Now that I dont have to chop anything off to qualify, I'll soon be haunting women's toilets and change rooms all over Aus when I get my gender changed to female
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They're still missing out on one of the best parts of being male - standing up to pee, preferably in the garden.
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Worlds TALLEST transgender female wrote: A 7ft tall butch basketball star is undergoing a sex change - and will become the world's tallest transsexual.
Lofty American Greg Walker, now 25, grew up sports-mad with beautiful cheerleaders on his arm, but said he 'always felt different'.
Strapping teenager Greg - who has size 16 feet and weighs around 20 stone - regularly lifted weights and would ride motorbikes to mask his true feelings.

He had dozens of girls chasing him but shunned their advances, preferring to become friends instead and discuss fashion and 'girly' things.
In his early 20s, Greg - now Lindsey - was unable to continue the 'charade' and began wearing women's clothes.
He then sought medical advice and began taking oestrogen to become more feminine and now boasts a curvy woman's body - and a 38B bra size.

Now legally recognised as female after living as a woman for two years, Lindsey said: 'I was one of the popular kids in high school.
'I was smart and always had girlfriends and loads of girls chasing me. But it somehow didn't feel right, almost like it was a charade.
'I started to feel really isolated as thought here was something wrong with me and at 18 I started doing research secretly into why I was feeling so different from everyone else.

'Although I hid my feelings well I lived my life always knowing there was something different.By 21 I had hit my rock bottom and I started having emotional problems and turned to drink.
'Then one day it just clicked and I knew what I had to do. I started wearing women's clothes and later turned to female hormones to suppress the testosterone in my body.'
'One day it just clicked and I knew what I had to do. I started wearing women's clothes and later turned to female hormones to suppress the testosterone in my body.'

Lindsey, of Ohio, grew up as Greg and experienced a 'normal boyish' childhood as a keen sportsman and gifted basketball player.
He was offered a basketball scholarship to study economics and marketing at Central Michigan College, but dropped out aged 21.
He became increasingly isolated and changed his name from Greg to Lindsey. Lindsey then poured her heart out in a letter to her supportive parents explaining she had always felt and wanted to be a woman.
The acceptance gave Lindsey the confidence to start wearing women's clothes and undergo a course of female hormones to become more 'womanly'.
She now proudly boasts a B-cup bra size and buys her fashionable clothes and high-heeled shoes to fit her size 16 feet from specialist websites online.
Lindsey is legally classified as a woman and is now saving up for full gender reassignment surgery, which she hopes to have by the end of the year or early 2013.
Her supportive parents have accepted her decision although Lindsey is estranged from her younger brother. She has also contacted the Guinness Book of Records in the hope she will be officially recognised as the world's tallest transsexual.

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www.dailymail.co.uk wrote:The sex-change sweethearts: How a pageant princess and colonel's son fell in love after BOTH had transgender treatment

To the casual observer, this young couple look just like any other teenagers in love.
But pretty Katie Hill and her boyfriend Arin Andrews share a unique bond - they were both born as the opposite sex.
Katie, 18, spent the first 15 years of her life as Luke, son of a Marine colonel, while Arin, 16, was born a girl called Emerald who excelled at ballet dancing and won beauty contests.
Both struggled with their sexuality all through their childhoods and were teased and bullied but their lives were changed when they both began hormone therapy and later met at a trans support group in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and instantly fell in love.
Katie said: 'All I saw was a handsome guy. We're perfect for each other because we both had the same troubles growing up.
'We're both size five, so we even swap our old clothes our mum's bought us but we hated.
'We look so convincing as a boy and a girl, nobody even notices now. We secretly feel so good about it because it's the way we've always wanted to be seen.'
High-school student Arin undergoes testosterone shots to give him the more masculine shape he's craved his whole life.
Meanwhile high-school graduate Katie, 18, has finished her female hormone course - oestrogen shots - which helped her to develop natural breasts with no silicone implants.
Katie, who has legally been a female since she was 15, believes she was born with naturally high levels of oestrogen and was teased as a boy throughout school for having small AA-cup breasts.
An anonymous donor was so touched by her story they paid for her £25,000 ($40,000) gender reassignment surgery just four days after her 18th birthday on May 16, 2012.
Katie added: 'Even from age three, I knew deep down I wanted to be a girl. All I wanted was to play with dolls. I hated my boy body and never felt right in it.

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I am not surprised Hammy.
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They look cute together. Damit. If i didn't know the girl was a guy I'd date it. :oops:
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