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Hard Disk Overclock issue

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Morning all

I was wondering if there was anyone who knows what to do with this problem. I am overclocking my system and when I try increase it from 3.4ghz to 3.6ghz I get a boot but what happens is that I get an error that says "couldnt load operating system" and what also happens is that it cant load windows at all. I have no loading screen either.

My voltages are fine. In my bios I have tried enabling spread spectrum and also tried setting my memory timings to the least aggressive and set my Dram driving to high. yet I still cant load windows.

Though I get a solid boot. I turn the clock back down and everything runs fine

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Pentium 4 3.2ghz LGA775 2mb cache
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1024 mb Ram ddr 400
80 gig SATA hard drive
Gainward 6800GS Golden Sample 512mb (481/1401)

Please help :cry:
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Post by _ »

Maybe change your title to something like "Hard drive issues when overclocking".. cause it sounds like you are ocing your HDD !!...

After setting up the overclock, make sure that your boot settings are still corect ie first boot HDD.. etc etc
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Post by KillerByte »

i found i also get this issue. it seems windows doesn't like you to get a faster processor. thats whats basically happening when you OC you fool your pc into thinking you have a new chip. Windows considers this a major upgrade and then wants you to reinstall
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Post by Hman »

No, what happens is your ide controller runs off the pci bus if this isn't locked to standard spec, your ide controller doesn't work properly, and can give you corruption on your HDD.
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KillerByte wrote:i found i also get this issue. it seems windows doesn't like you to get a faster processor. thats whats basically happening when you OC you fool your pc into thinking you have a new chip. Windows considers this a major upgrade and then wants you to reinstall
ummm. ok. Like windows is that stupid
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Post by Belix »

hehe.

You need to change a number of componants for Windows to have issues, and even then, I think i may be only when you try and reinstall windows, but I'm not certain. The key is linked to a number of computer componanats. Change enough of them, and it looks like a new system.

One of the componants in the system can't handle the overclock. As Hman says, the front side bus affects more than just the CPU, although in some motherboards, you can set various clock speeds independently.
    
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Post by Bobendren »

The sata clock is sensitive to overclocks. You need to look for some sort of lock in he bios. Try a pata hdd to test that it is the sata clock causing the problem.

Also disable anything "spread spectrum"
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Post by RevQ »

Are you overclocking by changing the bus speed? That could cause issues with certain controllers, rather change the multiple rate setting for the cpu if you can, or go with a lower bus speed increase, try and find a point that it's stable at. And dont stress about windows installs, wtf
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Post by SoulBlade »

Dude! What a dissapointment. I thought ur were the 1st person in the world to pull off a hdd OC.

_ is right, u might wanna change the title...
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Post by _ »

KillerByte wrote:Windows considers this a major upgrade and then wants you to reinstall
So you are telling me that the guys from extreme oc actually re-install XP daily ? :roll:
No offence, but changing your bus speed is not going to warrant a format/reload... Otherwise poor Jim down the road has to format when he upgrades his DDR 266 to DDR 400 ?
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Post by Fcon_Vpro »

Ive had this problem a few times.

Usually happens to me when I push my CPU too high.

And I had it before when using one of my dividers... seems like the motherboard or OS doesnt like that divider.

Also had that problem when you change memory timings. But loosening the timings usually solves the problem.

Ive only ever gotten that problem once and then had to reinstall windows.

Basically if this happens... your system isnt stable and you need to change/lower your oc.
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Post by Furion »

Hello everyone

Thank you very much for all your help thus far. I have looked in my BIOS settings and it seems that I cant find anything that helps. I have tried switching auto detect PCI dimm clock off and also tried adjusting the Hard disc settings and even switching oo the RAID controller just to see. And still No luck. I have loosened timings and also tried locking the RAM to one speed. still no luck.

Voltages are stable.

When I change some settings it now says please insert boot device and press any key or it says unable to load OS and also just shows me a blinking cursor without any activity. Im trying all I can. :evil:

Any Further suggestions?

many thanks, :) you people rock.
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Post by Cupis »

im real real noob at overclocking.... but there is two things from what i aundersatnd that could be a problem.... when the overclocking becomes to radical ie cpu no longer stable windows does not boot up... only way to test a stable oc cpu is run a diagnostic tool in windows... so if you can't get in you know its not stable

OR

what i have read SATA is extremely sensative to overclocking... just a little bit and it complains so the best way is just to not oc it att all... so focus on ram and cpu timing over total system timings....

like i said please correct me... i not expecting to be right... since i have never performed a "proper" oc... by myself that is... i am really noob..[/b]
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Post by killadoob »

i overclocked my hdd from 7200 to 10000 hahaha


o no wait i bought a raptor
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Post by naughty »

Hman wrote:No, what happens is your ide controller runs off the pci bus if this isn't locked to standard spec, your ide controller doesn't work properly, and can give you corruption on your HDD.
heres the answer staring you in the face - you need to make sure that the pci/agp/pci-e/SATA busses are all locked
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Post by Furion »

Hello everyone. Thank you very much for all the help you guys have given me. Its really appreciated. I tried and eventually got windows to boot at 3.6ghz with an fsb of 225mhz. Problem is that it corrupted some parts of windows. I did a repair of windows successfully. My question is if i keep it at 3.6ghz and fully repair windows at that clock speed will it fix the corruption problem?
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Post by Hman »

No, if your drive got corrupted, because of the overclock, and you keep it that way it will just corrupt different places on the drive.
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Post by solo »

This used to be a common problem with older motherboard with SATA ports they were not locked and thus increased in speed along with the FSB.

It could also be that you are overclocking your memory too far and thus causing the error as well.

You could try setting your memory to a slower speed than 1:1 with your FSB to rule that out.
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Post by thEnaileDonE »

killadoob wrote:i overclocked my hdd from 7200 to 10000 hahaha


o no wait i bought a raptor
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No, that was actually funny :P
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Post by Papsnoek »

What if you ope n your HD and replace the motor with a faster one?

Would that be overclocking your HD? (Would that actually work? :idea: )
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