Watercooling Setups

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ok , i think I understand waht you are saying but.

The specs were taken from here , thats what i asked the rep at the company for.


http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ ... ts_id=2304

Still. They have these.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ ... s_id=21386
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Mow wrote:ok , i think I understand waht you are saying but.

The specs were taken from here , thats what i asked the rep at the company for.


http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ ... ts_id=2304

Still. They have these.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ ... s_id=21386
ok, i see where you are coming from. That said, i find the second one highly suspect, given that swiftech does not recommend using the wrong fitting in your block on their sight :?

Also bare in mind, that most hydraulic systems leak slightly, and it doesn't matter because its not likely to damage anything in those cases. Best bet would be to either get an adaptor or to contest an existing barb into an adaptor.
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NPT connectors are not recommended in the Apogee water-block for the following reasons:

Dimensionally the difference between NPT and NPSM is the lack of taper in NPSM; which means that the seal resulting from the insertion of a NPT male into a NPSM female will make contact only at the largest portion of the NPT thread*. Yes, a low pressure seal can be made - but it will have little strength for bending loads from the tubing and will not be reliable.

The threads in the Apogee water-block are ¼”NPSM, the dimensions of which can be seen HERE, and those for NPT threads HERE

A comparison of the features of tapered pipe joints and straight thread adapters, NPSM, [by the SSP Fittings Corp.] can be seen HERE

*“The basic pitch diameter for both the external and internal straight pipe threads is equal to the pitch diameter of the American National Standard Taper Pipe Thread at the gaging notch, which is the same as at the large end of the internal taper pipe thread.“ Robert James Sales, Inc.

2/ NPSM and G ¼ Compared

G ¼, or BSPP, fittings will fit, but may not seal; each must be checked prior to assuming that it will not leak just because they fit together.

Both NPSM and G ¼ (BSPP) are parallel thread and nominally the same size, the principal difference being 18 threads per inch for NPSM and 19 threads per inch for G ¼ (BSPP). Since most male end G ¼ fittings have a short thread length they can generally be engaged in the NPSM threads without much difficulty.

The joint seal is effected with an O-ring which for the NPSM barb is in a groove on the water-block top and compressed by the flange nut barb.
G ¼ fittings have the O-ring captured in a groove under the fitting nut.

G ¼ fittings will seal so long as there is a straight portion under the nut flats sufficient to bring the G ¼ fitting’s O-ring into contact with the bottom of the O-ring groove, a depth of 0.080”.
So basicly what i should be looking for is 1/4" NPSM x 1/2" barb ? Yes ... ?
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Mow, yes, that would be the best. The G fittings were actually designed for a doughty washer. It works rather differently. I'll find you a picture. The other catch with all british fitting is they were over designed and rather bulky. Your best best is still to find an adaptor or converter fitting. Or to make one from an existing barb. :D
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I'll post some pics for you later ;)
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Wel they have the 1/4" NPSM x 1/2" model for R20 each. If i understand correctly thats exactly what swiftech recommends.So why do i still need an adaptor ?
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Mow wrote:Wel they have the 1/4" NPSM x 1/2" model for R20 each. If i understand correctly thats exactly what swiftech recommends.So why do i still need an adaptor ?
an adaptor would let you use barbs with more common threads. But if you have the correct barbs, perfect. :D
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hey guys here are some pics of my setup got better pics but my cam cable is at work :(
#Motherboard : INTEL X58 DX58SO
#CPU : Intel Core I7 920 2.66mhz @ 4.11ghz
#CPU Cooling : watercooling
#RAM : 6Gb corsair Xms3 ddr3 1600mhz
#RAM Cooling : standard heatsinks
#Graphics Card : ASUS ATI HD5850 just one for now :)
#Graphics Card Cooling : Stock
#Power Supply : 850w coolermaster real power
#Chassis : lian li a71
#Fan's : 10x Coolermaster 12cm fans, intel fan (Northbridge)
#Hard Drives : 3x320Gb (SATA) 4x1500Gb ( SATA) 1X300Gb Velociraptor 10000RPM
#Optical Drives : LG usb

External Hardware :

#Keyboard : microsoft sidewinder X6
#Mouse :Logitech Mx revolution
#monitor : sony Bravia 40" 1080P LCD http://www.sony.co.za/product/klv-40s400a
#Speakers : Logitech Z5500 digital speakers
#Miscellaneous : PSP 2000 model and playstation 3 with 320Gb hdd AIRCON

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Hi Guys

Just need advise on my choice of components and if I have everything that I need.

1) Swiftech APOGEE XT Ultra Extreme Performance Water Block
- Fittings Stock 1/4" BSPP X 1/2 " Barb Chrome Plated Fittings
- Water Block Hold Down Bracket Stock Water Block Hold Down Bracket

2) Swiftech Radiator - MCR220 Quiet Power Series Dual 120 mm - Black
- Fitting Size Add (2) Swiftech BSPP-250-500-CP 1/2" chrome barb fittings

3) Swiftech MCP655™ Series 12 VDC Water Pumps
- Water Pump With a speed controller (part # MCP655)

4) EK-Multioption RES 150 Rev 2
- Fitting Size 1/2" Barb for 1/2" ID tube
- Reservoir Accessory Add No Accessory

5) PrimoFlex Pro LRT UV Blue Tubing -1/2in. ID X 3/4in. OD

6) Primochill Resuable Hose Clamp [19mm, 3/4" OD] - Black

7) Feser One F1 Cooling Fluid - Clear/UV Blue - 1 Liter
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Great components there, and doesn't seem anything is missing.

I have my Swiftech Apogee XT Extreme CPU block.

Currently awaiting the following from Danger Den:

Fat Boy Fittings for 1/2 ID Tubing
Black Ice Xtreme Radiator - Black
Yate Loon Low 120mm fan
DD CPX-1 12V Pump
7 Feet of Tygon Tubing
Single 5 1/4 Bay Reservoir
2 x Blue 5mm Molex LED's
Some more Arctic Silver V
Feser UV Blue Water Additive
Clear Anodized Fillport and Tee
12 Hose Clamps

Will post pics once all set up and configured nicely.
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ryanrich wrote:Will post pics once all set up and configured nicely.
Pics are here, and previous page: Link...
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Question:

I have now looked at about 5 sites and I have noticed some trends
1. Everyone is selling complete CPU water cooling solutions (closed systems).
2. Everyone is selling water blocks for GPUs
3. No one is selling separate CPU blocks / pumps/ radiators

As you can imagine this is a problem. Does anyone know of a local supplier that still sells separate components for CPU cooling?

EDIT:
NVM: found these guys.
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