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Its not a revolution its an evolution. With the S3 Samsung dethroned Apple so why change a winning product? Apple has not really changed their design all that much except when they were pressured into the longer screen race. Also Samsung seem to have hit on a design that is their own and is identifiable at a distance as a Samsung. The only thing to do is to make the build materials a tad more desirable.

Honestly though...

I am on the meh side of life. So I can sit this one out and see what next year brings. I love the idea of a 8 core proc and would love to experiment with it but that will last for +- 1 month and I will be bored. The floating touch? Apparently its not that great and is hard to keep your fingers at the right distance without actually touching the screen. The air gestures? Will destroy battery life as will the other gimmicks. The screen is about the only thing that I am really wishing the S3 had but I will get over it.

Next phone is a Nexus phone for me. Here's hoping LG are not making that one...
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Must say I'm getting bored with my iPhone. It was a leader for ages, but they've stopped innovating! Seriously considering a Nexus 4... I love a clean Android experience.
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Samsung chucks pasta at the wall and waits to see what sticks. In the meantime, HTC creates great products and is sidelined… why?
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I have had an HTC before - problematic to say the least. Avoid them now
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I had an HTC Desire. Now that you mention it… you are right. Only Apple can be trusted. :P
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Well I am not sure about your above statement - but then I have never used an Apple
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D3PART3D wrote:Samsung chucks pasta at the wall and waits to see what sticks. In the meantime, HTC creates great products and is sidelined… why?
HTC is busy paying the price for sidelining buyers who are locked into 2 year contracts. They are one of the worst manufacturers when it comes to supporting updates on older phones also I have never heard any HTC marketing so its their own fault really. Samsung on the other hand have supported their products far longer and are extremely aggressive on marketing.
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What Anky said :D
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The ideal: HTC made, Nexus phone.
Great hardware, stock android!
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Just like the way Samsung and Apple push each other,
thereby challenging the rest to innovate.
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Monty wrote:The ideal: HTC made, Nexus phone.
Great hardware, stock android!
I agree with this. I am hoping the next Nexus is a HTC build (should they still be in business) because thats what I am looking at getting next. BTW the rumors coming out of that Samsung launch is that Samsung are looking at leaving Google due to the lack of mention of any Google product. Also there is a major Samsung launch to happen toward the end of the year and it is expected to be a high end Tizen (Samsung OS) phone that they are planning to launch into the EU/US markets. Google has a real problem on its hands in the form of Samsung and ironically its not Apple that could destroy Android but Samsung...

Anyone else notice how since Google has bought Motorola that they have not launched a single phone? Its rumored that they are working on a Google X phone but nothing these last couple of years is a big worry...
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Anakha56 wrote: Google has a real problem on its hands in the form of Samsung and ironically its not Apple that could destroy Android but Samsung...
how does ACL fit into that equation?
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ACL? Probably because I have not had my coffee yet but please elaborate?
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OpenMobile's App Compatibility Layer

http://openmobileww.com/products.php
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/tiz ... -20130218/

The possible cross-platform compatibility of Tizen is quite an interesting possibility and to my mind, new ideas are always welcome, especially if they seem innovative
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No idea about that, not a programmer so I dont actively investigate those kind of things :).
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Anakha, I'm sure you had sensible reasons for going with Samsung, but I don't think the average user is as informed (or cares to be). I think I've answered my own question.
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D3PART3D wrote:Anakha, I'm sure you had sensible reasons for going with Samsung, but I don't think the average user is as informed (or cares to be). I think I've answered my own question.
Eh? Your question is why HTC gets sidelined, from the technical users side it is because of their lack of updates to old models especially when the model is not even a year old so word of mouth to the uninformed is "Don't go HTC because they dont update their software on their own phones". To the normal user, tell me have you ever seen a HTC on TV? What about radio? How about billboards? I have seen & heard all three for Samsung but never for HTC. As a brand HTC killed themselves because they did not invest in themselves.
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I have also heard mixed reviews about HTC's reliability.
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@Anakha: I knew all about the update issues with HTC, but even so I didn't care much because I didn't feel I was missing out on anything essential. What still to people who need to ask their neigbors why their device keeps offering them dessert? It's a very valid complaint for anyone very interested in the tech side of things, but to most people a phone is still just a phone. Waiting until your contract expires for a more tangible upgrade isn't so hard.

HTC could have advertised more, but they were already very recognisable weren't they? Samsungs advertising helped a lot, but challenging the iPhone directly helped them more: they appealed to the hipsters who wanted to rebel against the current reigning brand and it worked, the same way indie bands are very popular with teenagers because they feel that it is somehow part of their identity. I'm not saying that's how every Samsung user chose, but it sure did play a huge role. Samsung will eventually be seen as maintream again and people will start using something else.
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No but the tech side speak to end user and I have on numerous occasions told people to stay clear of HTC because they do not support their phones.

HTC were only recognizable to business people due to the Windows Mobile environment and their Exchange support to the end user they were not known at all and marketing helps in that regard. HTC makes lovely phones but they cannot rely on that alone they need to drive home that they make awesome phones by pushing out some awesome marketing.

On the by & by so far no news has come out that the new Sense will come down to their current high-end phones...
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http://bgr.com/2013/03/19/galaxy-s-4-ip ... +Report%29
Samsung Galaxy S 4 crushes iPhone 5, other leading phones in early performance tests

Samsung’s (005930) Galaxy S 4 might not offer much in the way of an exciting new exterior design, but inside, it’s a completely different story. The retooled internals on the U.S. version of the Galaxy S 4 were put to the test by benchmark specialists Primate Labs and the results are impressive, to say the least. The Galaxy S 4 scored a 3,163 on the standard Geekbench 2 speed test, just shy of twice the iPhone 5′s score of 1,596. That score was also good enough to top the upcoming HTC One, the Nexus 4 and the previous-generation Galaxy S III. The chart below shows the Galaxy S 4′s results compared to other leading smartphones tested by Primate Labs.

It should be noted, by the way, that this test was performed with the slow version of Samsung’s new flagship Android phone. The U.S. variant of the Galaxy S 4 is powered by a quad-core Snapdragon chipset that features integrated LTE radios. The international version of the phone will feature Samsung’s in-house eight-core Exynos process, which will likely offer significant performance benefits.

Other key features on the Galaxy S 4 include a 5-inch Super AMOLED HD display, 2GB of RAM, up to 64GB of storage, a 13-megapixel camera and Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean. BGR recently published an extensive hands-on preview of the Galaxy S 4 and we said it was better than its predecessor in nearly every way.
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Not really surprising... And iPhone 5S being release in a few months will crush this and so on. At this point what on earth would you need 8 CPU cores on a smartphone for?

Must say the HTC One is the first iPhone level sexy Android phone, so much nicer looking than the GS4. Very tempting...
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ryanrich wrote:Must say I'm getting bored with my iPhone. It was a leader for ages, but they've stopped innovating! Seriously considering a Nexus 4... I love a clean Android experience.
I'm currently playing with an S3. I got tired of the rebooting/freezing with Windows Phone 8, so I figured I'd leave it alone at least until such stability issues have been sorted. Swapped the Nokia for an S3.

I still think iOS is a better operating system, but my problem is primarily that the pricing is just getting even more insane than it used to be. iPhone 5 would be the next logical step for me, but I'm frankly not going to pay what it costs to get one. I'm over having to have the absolute best. I'm determined to give Android a good, long try this time, even though I'm already getting irritated in some respects.

I must admit that I'm quite keen to try a Nexus device. These Samsung features are largely gimicky and don't really work that well.
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ryanrich wrote:At this point what on earth would you need 8 CPU cores on a smartphone for?
Is it just me or is Android more resource intensive than iOS? The lag on this S3 is really frustrating at times, even though the hardware is supposedly so much more impressive than the iPhone.
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Much more laggy, especially with the bloatware that accompanies most Android phones. Pure Android (Nexus) is definitely the way to go.
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